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WIBU to give our baby the surname Georgeson-Johns?

279 replies

AshtonBacks · 13/10/2016 00:08

Not much else to it! Grin

OP posts:
BuntyFigglesworthSpiffington · 13/10/2016 14:00

There is a difference between tradition and sexism.

I don't normally Lol but.................LOL.

PuppyMonkey · 13/10/2016 14:02

Who is Katerina Johnson Thompson? Confused

mum2anxious · 13/10/2016 14:02

We gave our sons a double barrel surname and really I regret it. Nice for us, but not for them really. My youngest dropped my name from his surname at secondary school, made it so much easier for him to spell and when completing forms etc. Sadly I gave my poor first born 2 middle names as well so by the time he's finished reeling it all off, and correcting the spelling, he's exhausted, and would much prefer a short name.He suffers anxiety anyway and finds it so much harder when giving his name as people mis hear, need to have it spelled out etc, ask if there a hyphen etc. It is difficult, I would say use the father's name but then I think I would have found it easier when they're at school to have the same name as them. If both of you want your child to have your name Id say best option is using one as a 'middle' name, or just invent a new surname for everyone, you could perhaps incorporate your first name. Alternatively you could consult a numerologist and pick a name that is numerologically most beneficial to the child. Some people really do this!

PuppyMonkey · 13/10/2016 14:02

Who is Katerina Johnson Thompson? Confused

Manumission · 13/10/2016 14:04

Sportswoman at the Rio Olympics. Swimmer? I can't remember (not a big sports fan).

Fyoosha · 13/10/2016 14:09

I really like the Spanish surname system - everyone has two surnames (first part of father's, followed by first part of mother's) and then when you have kids you give them the first part of your husband's and the first part of yours. So actually everyone does have a different surname except the children who share the sane combination. However it works and is fair (except I guess the second part of the surname relating to the female line always gets bumped!).
Anyway: I think Georgeson Johns sounds fine. It is what it is and you get used to it.

PuppyMonkey · 13/10/2016 14:16

Thanks Manumission.

Anyway I quite like John-Georgeson.

Losing just an s.

hopelesslycynical · 13/10/2016 14:20

As it goes, your example is not too bad, but imo double barrelled surnames scream pretentiousness, snobbery, and egotism (on the part of both parents).

BertrandRussell · 13/10/2016 14:25

"As it goes, your example is not too bad, but imo double barrelled surnames scream pretentiousness, snobbery, and egotism (on the part of both parents)."

No egotism in a man insisting the children have his name, then? Grin

cathf · 13/10/2016 14:26

Hopelessly, I could not agree more.
It becomes all about the parents' egos without a thought to saddling the child with the name.
Also, as I said unthread, double-barrelled surnames used to be the preserve of the 'upper classes' (for want of a better description) but not these days.

cathf · 13/10/2016 14:27

Not egotism, Bertrand, but tradition.
Have you heard of it? It used to be quite a thing.

JellyBelli · 13/10/2016 14:31

With the hyphenated surnames, what do the next generation do? Will your grandchildren have 4 surnames?
It added nothing to feminism, and it sounds silly.

Landed gentry used to double barrel as they didnt want the name to die out. Thats what I associate it with.

MitzyLeFrouf · 13/10/2016 14:40

'With the hyphenated surnames, what do the next generation do? Will your grandchildren have 4 surnames?'

Glad you've raised that point..............

MitzyLeFrouf · 13/10/2016 14:41

'Not egotism, Bertrand, but tradition.
Have you heard of it? It used to be quite a thing.'

A pretty sexist tradition.

deevoo · 13/10/2016 14:42

Wasn't that tradition all about women signing up to be the man's property, pretty much? Confused

WildDigestive · 13/10/2016 14:43

Gosh, no one's ever pointed out the horrible dilemma to be faced by the next generation before. For God's sake. You can nearly hear the brain cell being shared.

double barrelled surnames scream pretentiousness, snobbery, and egotism (on the part of both parents).

Nothing remotely pretentious or egotistical - or even, thank God, particularly unusual about wanting your child to have both parents' names.

It's fine, OP.

MitzyLeFrouf · 13/10/2016 14:44

'You can nearly hear the brain cell being shared.'

Grin
HoobleDooble · 13/10/2016 14:46

A friend of mine's children have both parents' surnames hyphenated. Her DP's name is quite long-winded, however, and her shorter name tends to get dropped off the end when anyone is talking about them, and in correspondence from school.

She gets ridiculously pissed off about this to say that she's the one who decided to give them both names.

I always made it very clear to DH that, if we had a child before we were married, he or she would have my surname -but I've been tainted by working closely with divorce/childcare solicitors for the last 20 years.

Grumpyaboutchristmas · 13/10/2016 14:47

We double barrelled our kids names as I didn't take husband's name, quite deliberately. Paternalistic society point, and not wanting to continue what largely started out as the passing of women as chattels (from father to husband) on marriage but also because of work - my name was my reputation.

It sounded shit at first, and people took the piss, but it's THEIR name. So it works. They are a combination of the two of you and should have both names. Who gives a fuck what anyone else thinks? They love having both names and complain if anyone misses part out accidentally.

Out of interest, many of the Children in my kids classes have double barrels for the same reasons, either because their parents aren't married or don't share a name. Some flow at first blush, some don't, but no one bats an eyelid. It's very normal these days.

ICuntSeeYourPoint · 13/10/2016 15:02

Why not just give the child your surname? You're not married or planning to marry, so why not just share your surname with the child so you both have the same name? You could choose your dh's surname instead of yours but you're the one actually having the child (with associated potential detriment to your career and health) and statistically, if you split it's much more likely that you'll be the main carer. You're taking a lot of risk and not having the security of being married (which may help to even up finances in the event of a split) I'd plan with a little bit of caution I think.

Grumpyaboutchristmas · 13/10/2016 15:02

I've said it a few times and georgeson-johns sounds cool. Do it. Don't drop an S or bastardise your names, just give them both.

The next generation can work out how we take such feminism forward. I think the risk of four names is more preferable than the risk of women forever being renamed by our men as if we remained the chattels we once were.

DryIce · 13/10/2016 15:26

Also, as I said unthread, double-barrelled surnames used to be the preserve of the 'upper classes' (for want of a better description) but not these days.

double barrelled surnames scream pretentiousness, snobbery, and egotism (on the part of both parents).

Landed gentry used to double barrel as they didnt want the name to die out. Thats what I associate it with.

Seems much snobbier to me to tell me I shouldn't name my pleb kids with a DB name!

LetitiaCropleysCookbook · 13/10/2016 15:31

Who is Katerina Johnson Thompson?

Katarina Mary Johnson-Thompson is an English track and field athlete specialising in the heptathlon. Wikipedia Smile

hardheadedwoman · 13/10/2016 15:39

What about George St John? Grin

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 13/10/2016 15:41

Hang on, is the point that tradition is good, tradition means just one name ... But it's not sexist because it could be the mother's name? So not traditional. But not sexist either. Or just that any double barrelled names are crap? Because they're not traditional. So why not go with the tradition of just one name, but don't be hidebound by tradition if you want to have the one name be the mothers name.

Can I have a loan of that brain cell, because it seems to me like all the horror at db names, and all the fury at the suggestion there might be something a bit sexist about it, is at best rather circular in its logic.

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