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To be apoplectic with rage

141 replies

couldntlovethebearmore · 12/10/2016 09:41

Over the vax advert?
Nice family having breakfast, the kids and man make a massive mess everywhere.
Mum walks in smiling and cleans it up with the vax.
WHEN the fuck will this sexist shit ever end?

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MistressMerryWeather · 12/10/2016 12:50

Drunk people.

Have you ever been drunk and made something to eat? You come down the next morning and your kitchen looks like a Jackson Pollock painting.

NavyandWhite · 12/10/2016 12:57

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Pipthedog · 12/10/2016 12:59

Personally I think you've all missed the real villain in the advert. The dog. Bastard, shaking himself and then just sitting back on the sofa whilst the woman vacuums. That dog needs to take a good hard look at himself....

crashdoll · 12/10/2016 13:02

OP, was that spiteful little personal attack really necessary? You did post on AIBU.

crashdoll · 12/10/2016 13:03

I don't think YABU to be against this advert and the casual scepticism btw but the "apoplectic with rage" is way over the top.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 12/10/2016 13:03

OP your last post was unnecessary and completely nasty.

MarklahMarklah · 12/10/2016 13:07

Apoplectic over an advert when there is war & famine going on - YABU
Furious over inherent sexism in advertising that prevails - YANBU

user1474627704 · 12/10/2016 13:08

Navyandwhite I'm glad because you are a sahm you get to martyr yourself all day long and clean up after those more than capable of not leaving shit for you to deal with. Your self esteem must be sky high

Op your fucking attitude is way worse than this advert. Nasty thing to say.

HarryPottersMagicWand · 12/10/2016 13:08

navy what a lovely day that sounds. No one can pretend they'd rather be in work than relaxing with friends and doing what they fancy.

OP, you were nasty and necessary. Just because people are telling you how ott you are being, no need to take it out on someone who is quite happy to be a SAHM and tidy up. You sound like you protest too much Grin.

OddBoots · 12/10/2016 13:09

OP, I agreed with you about the advert but your message to Navyandwhite was unkind and unfair.

DixieWishbone · 12/10/2016 13:10

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maxington · 12/10/2016 13:11

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Londonista · 12/10/2016 13:14

Sigh ... never takes long before it all gets nasty and condascending does it. Shall we talk about Brexit instead?????

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 12/10/2016 13:18

Shall we talk about Brexit instead?????

Nooooooo Noooooooo Shock

Londonista · 12/10/2016 13:22

Grin Grin

MovingOnUpMovingOnOut · 12/10/2016 13:22

Jeez there is some unnecessary unpleasantness on this thread! Could we just not please?

Up the thread a poster asked another this question:

if you spend your life with a backdrop of men being useless clumsy gormless fuckwitted lazy couch dwellers that cant do anything without breaking it, leaving women rolling their eyes in frustration with them, then you, as a boy, will internalise that is what men are like?

I would say, based purely on anecdata that yes, it can and probably does directly contribute. There is also the difference in how we advertise products to men and women (men, you're awesome and deserve this! Women, there is quite a lot wrong with you but don't worry we'll fix it if you buy this product!) that needs to be included when evaluating impact.

Off the top of my head I can think of six men who basically behave like teenage boys in the home and expect a woman to skivvy for them. They x-box/loaf about all day and do nothing in the home/child care. I would think the every day sexism that is portrayed in advertising is a contributing factor. Only two are still married.

So yes, these sexist stereotypes have an impact. Of course they are based on real social realities. That doesn't mean they are acceptable. Societal change has to start with a collective responsibility and there is nothing more collectively accessible that what we allow to be portrayed in the media. This is how we have moved mindsets on from the days of Love Thy Neighbour and The Benny Hill Show.

We need to keep pushing against stuff like this and that means that negative portrayals of either sex is inappropriate in TV advertising.

eddielizzard · 12/10/2016 13:35

i agree it's bullshit.

the day when the man comes in all smiles to clean, while wife and kids make the mess is the day we can all shrug and say it's not a big deal.

yes, small, but our lives are filled with this crap and it adds up.

BitOutOfPractice · 12/10/2016 13:42

He's not looking after the children. He's ignoring them, on the phone, and making his own breakfast!

Teddy1970 · 12/10/2016 13:50

When I first met DH, he came from a home where MIL did everything for the men of the house (and still does) it really, really gets my goat, FIL doesn't lift a finger to help, it doesn't happen in my house thank god, but I'm sure MIL thinks I'm a crap wife because I don't wait on DH hand and foot. I'll never forget the look on her face when I said I don't darn his socks (yes, I'm deadly serious) I chuck them in the bin because we live in the 21st century now not 1950...I'm such a rebel.

user1474627704 · 12/10/2016 13:56

He's not looking after the children. He's ignoring them, on the phone, and making his own breakfast

Is this a feature length commercial? Must be to get so much information about the situation.

MistressMerryWeather · 12/10/2016 13:57
BitOutOfPractice · 12/10/2016 14:02

user1474627704 No its not sarky so and so but that's what the dad is doing. Talking on the phone, poring his own juice and cereal, and not taking any notice of the carnage created by the kids. I don't think you have to be Sherlock Holmes to see that Confused

BitOutOfPractice · 12/10/2016 14:02

*pouring

Childrenofthestones · 12/10/2016 14:07

"user1474627704 Wed 12-Oct-16 12:41:56
Fairly representative, I'd say.

Vacuum cleaners are bought, and used, much more by women. This is a fact. Where do you get the idea that adverts are to guide and promote ideals in society, rather than to sell shit to the people who buy it?

It pisses me off when people will get "apopleptic with rage" about some stupid advert that isn't even bad, instead of directing that rage to serious issues. And yes, its all important, but have some fecking perspective. Go and DO something instead of wanking on about bloody adverts."

Hahaha.

If you get a chance read some Edward Bernays. A real eye opener.

user1474627704 · 12/10/2016 14:09

If you get a chance read some Edward Bernays. A real eye opener

If you get a chance read something a little more up to date than the 1920's and 30's. And maybe notice that there are far bigger things to get worked up at the moment about than a fecking commercial.

If you're actually apopleptic, do something instead of reading and pontificating.