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To not be ashamed.

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sugarplumfairy28 · 03/10/2016 20:15

I'll try to cut a long story short. I am half English and half German. My parents were told that I didn't need dual nationality at birth as all of Europe would be come one and dual nationality within Europe wouldn't be a 'thing'. So I have always been British.

I have never fitted in with my English family, more in looks than anything, (I am short, red headed and very fair) it wasn't until I met my more extended German family I finally felt like I had a place within my family.

At school I was literally beaten for being German (my maiden name was a give away) Children in my neighbourhood were also fond of regularly beating me within an inch of my life. To make matters worse my parents put me in the middle of their differences, in making me choose between them and their methods on how to deal with the problem. I tried to commit suicide at 13.

Thanks to my Nan and my karate instructor, I somehow made it back on the road to normality. Among other things they taught me to be proud of who I am, and where I have come from, the struggles and my German heritage. 2 years ago I moved to Germany with my family. My children identify with being German more than English and both are almost fluent. During the EU referendum I was appalled by the hatred and xenophobia and decided that I do truly identify with being German and as such decided to formalise my German citizenship. In response to this, my Grandfather has publicly disowned me. That I have sided with the enemy and he hopes I find out the 'true nature of Germans'.

My parents have just been to the UK for a visit, my Grandad has said Germans are not welcome in his house and while my Mum can visit my Father no longer can - because of my decision. My brother had to be vetted before he was allowed to visit, in that he had to confirm he is not seeking a German passport. I have to be honest I am more than a little upset that my immediate family are not bothered that I am being treated for something I am legally entitled to, or the horrific way my Grandad has chosen to speak to me.

This is the question though, baring everything in mind. My Mum has asked that I keep quiet about the whole German thing, that I make no public statements about how I feel about my nationality. She is angry at me for putting her in the middle. AIBU in thinking that I shouldn't have to feel ashamed, that I should be allowed to be proud of who I am?

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sugarplumfairy28 · 05/10/2016 10:05

Oh she hasn't not tried to help him Piglet but to preserve her inheritance she just wants me to not mention Germans and make him angry at her.

Unfortunately we both live in Germany, in essentially one house, so we're not on hand to nag him about going to the GP. For one afternoon visit that she has had with him, she did at least try and talk to him about the possibility. So that is something.

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TheAntiBoop · 05/10/2016 11:15

But I don't understand how he is hearing what you are saying? Is he on Facebook? Is it other relatives stirring?

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sugarplumfairy28 · 05/10/2016 11:40

Both AntiBoop

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OneFootinFront · 05/10/2016 11:49

Your grandfather is a nasty racist, I'm afraid.

Good for you not to be ashamed. I'm so so sorry for your situation. It should never be like this. I despair today at what this wonderful country is turning into.

WE ARE ALL MIGRANTS Racists should get over themselves.

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PigletWasPoohsFriend · 05/10/2016 11:55

So what is she going to forward when his dementia deteriorates further, if that is the case?

Is she going to continue to ignore it and pretend it will go away for the sake of her inheritance?

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MagikarpetRide · 05/10/2016 12:03

Because my family is full of shit stirrers I have my Facebook locked down. Some things I post for all to see and I out the vanilla stuff up there, most things I post excluding family and those shit stirrers who are associated with the related shit stirrers (because once I posted about a nice trip to see a friend, and that was taken as an insult to someone Confused). Facebook groupings can be your friend here.

Can't help with your dm though, it's a horrible attitude she has Flowers

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TheAntiBoop · 05/10/2016 12:19

I'm impressed he's on Facebook.

I would set up two Facebook accounts and have the stirring family and your grandad on one and keep the original as is!

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TheAntiBoop · 05/10/2016 12:26

I think this thread is going to continue down the 'don't be ashamed' angle but you probably need more help on how to deal with your family. The German bit is irrelevant - people would find anything if they want to create

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sugarplumfairy28 · 05/10/2016 16:50

lol AntiBoop he isn't your typical old man. He was the first person I knew with a computer, now I think he has about 3, ipads, a bafflingly technical sound system, mobile, ipod, editing equipment. You wouldn't think he is 84 to be fair.

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gonetoseeamanaboutadog · 05/10/2016 18:34

I think you're right to feel free to be who you want/need to be. No one has the right to ask you to repress that.

At the same time, I don't see the point in crowing about a part of your identity that you know will be impossible for others to overcome unless you truly don't mind cutting racist family members out of your life. It feels a bit passive aggressive.

It's worth remembering that we are all a mix in terms of our DNA - and appearances aren't everything. Perhaps your grandfather feels a bit rejected.

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PacificDogwod · 05/10/2016 19:08

I agree this has less to do with nationality and more with ingrained dysfunctional family relationships.
I think if you were able to move out, day to day living would probably improve.
And lock down your FB (FB hater here Grin)!

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Manumission · 05/10/2016 21:50

She's going to drive you mad one way or another until you move out.

She's a much bigger problem than your DGF; nearer at hand and will be around longer.

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glueandstick · 05/10/2016 21:51

Wow. You poor thing.

Germans actively welcomed here- but only if you bring the good marzipan.

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sugarplumfairy28 · 06/10/2016 07:29

glue only the best marzipan in this house!

A bit more has been unraveled and now I'm feeling slightly guilty on the face of it. My Grandad was an engineer of sorts, but I don't really know what he did, with no disrespect intended lets call it small scale stuff, he worked out of a tiny factory on an industrial estate.

My Dads family, apparently my Grandad was unaware of who they are, until my son told him who they were after a day out, which I will explain.

Both DH and I are really keen for DS to think about what he wants to do when leaving school. DS is very very clever, he loves science and maths, we know he can do anything. My cousin is studying aerospace engineering at Uni which DS seemed fascinated by. We took DS to Duxford aerospace museum to see an actual plane that was designed and built by a member of my Dads family. DS was blown away, and obviously excitedly told lots of people and wants to be an engineer more than anything.

My Grandad feels jealous that DS (who is 7) has taken inspiration and a love of engineering from someone that isn't him. From someone who was directly linked to the war, and from a German. Grandad seems to think he knows this family member, and knows who he was, his beliefs, motives and morals and now thinks that my son has defected to the enemy side. He feels that given who my Dads family are, that acknowledging them and by proxy Germans, will corrupt us, and that he must do everything he can to distant himself and his family from it from this threat.

Now I can understand the jealously, and I do feel a little guilty. On the other hand though, DS is 7, and a real life plane and a genuine link to it, is more tangible, and understandably more memorable. The other things my Grandad has said are utter nonsense and I think just words said out of jealously - albeit some very twisted ideas and spiteful words.

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PigletWasPoohsFriend · 06/10/2016 07:33

To me, that seems even more like onset of dementia tbh.

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glueandstick · 06/10/2016 17:25

Oh good. When are you coming over? Grin

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sugarplumfairy28 · 06/10/2016 19:22

Haha not any time soon unfortunately glue but maybe this will give you an incentive to visit Germany. Just the smell was incredible.

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