AIBU to ask you who you would vote for if a General Election were to be called tomorrow?

[Nakatomi]

And why would you vote that way? For you, do you vote for your party or for your local MP?

I am a Corbyn supporter but dislike my local MP for resigning from the front bench. Shame, because she's actually quite a good MP otherwise. I would probably still vote for her to get Labour into power but otherwise I would vote for the Greens.

If we had been offered three options: Remain; Soft Brexit (roughly); Hard Brexit (roughly), Remain would have won Not necessarily. But we could have split the Remain vote in the same way with a Remain-as-it-is and a Remain-with-major-changes.

Exactly Humid.

I can't believe the number of Labour voters who loved David, didn't like Ed but are now all for Jeremy.

You couldn't make it up.

Though Humid people voting for Brexit voted purely on immigration. A poll afterwards suggested that 70% of those who voted Brexit also supported capital punishment.

Can you imagine it in four years time - let's bring back the death penalty! Thankfully, I won't be living in England then and have an EU passport anyway, as do my children.

But the govt refused to plan for Brexit so they were never going to offer types of Brexit were they?

A poll afterwards suggested that 70% of those who voted Brexit also supported capital punishment. - Which poll? Can you link?

sounds like a ridiculous poll Eldenon I would take it with a pinch of salt.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-36803544

blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/personal-values-brexit-vote/

I know, really stupid Humid

Quote:

Figure 3 shows that 71 percent of those most in favour of the death penalty indicated in 2015 that they would vote to leave the EU. This falls to 20 percent among those most opposed to capital punishment. A similar picture results for other RWA questions such as the importance of disciplining children. RWA is only tangentially related to demographics. Education, class, income, gender and age play a role, but explain less than 10 percent of the variation in support for the death penalty.

Thank you - it will take some reading - it's quite long. It doesn't correlate with anything I know or have heard but I will reserve judgement until I have read it. ("What was the question?" will always be crucial in that sort of survey)

So which party will the pro-death penalty people vote for do you think Labour or Tory?

Doesn't that day 70% of the people who support the death penalty would vote to leave which is entirely different to 70% of leave voters support the death penalty.

I know Labour members who bragged about not voting in the referendum on Facebook, and all of them want the death penalty back - though they don't admit it on Facebook.

It is different, but if you voted leave you are with those who want the death penalty back. UKip got their way on getting a referendum, why not get their way on the death penalty, come 2019. For a lot of people their children will be raised in this environment.

Just read the update Elendon - Giddy is right - it isn't the same thing.

Once again it isn't really helpful to demonise half the country.

Yes, sorry, my point was that the question could have been asked in different ways that could have produced different results. Which is one reason complex constitutional and political questions are not good subjects for referenda in my view as it is not clear what the people think. I know Lexiteers who thoughr they were voting against austerity but for the single market.

But if the three-way question had been asked then for Remain to lose, the overwhelming majority of Leave voters would have had to go to the same Brexit camp, which seems very unlikely. We cannot know what was in people's heads and may reasonably all have different ipinions on that depending on who we talk to, what we read and so on.

Death Penalty votes usually go through the Commons so it's extremely unlikely it's coming back. Unless you know how many people that 70% is you can't quantify it. 70% of a million is less worrying then 70% of 40 million.

Giddy by all accounts the referendum was a 'choice of the people' and if the people choose to bring back the death penalty, then that's the people's choice. Not a vote in Parliament. We are no longer in the EU, which requires member states to not have the death penalty.

And remind me when we last saw Farage? Oh that would be at a Trump convention.

if you voted leave you are with those who want the death penalty back

That is silly. Even assuming the study is good, the questions/ sample etc have been taken into account it is still something that people are actually very likely not to be honest about.

20% - one fifth - of the Remainers also approve of the death penalty. That's not exactly something to be proud of either.

No. The UK has had Parliamentary votes on the death penalty that have nothing to do with the EU.
We abolished it long before we joined the EEC

Conservative.

Always will. Don't like my local (Tory) MP but will still vote for the party, as I voted for Brexit. It's been a great year.

Those who voted to leave cannot ever discard their bedfellows. Now, Brexit is going to happen. Whatever your reasons, you voted along side those who hate immigration and ergo refugees, and also bring with them, values that equate to a far right movement.

Farage is with Trump now. He has dealt his hand. There is no washing away the stain of this.

Plus the foreign secretary is Boris Johnson. A man, who recently, said that Turkey should be in the EU.

Could we make this up?

Sorry. Are you suggesting I'm a Kipper?

Really Giddy, long before joining the EEC? Ten years?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_the_United_Kingdom

Unless you discount Northern Ireland. The UK could not join the EEC unless it was abandoned in Northern Ireland.

I've no idea what you are. But voting Brexit would suggest that you are indeed someone who has an allegiance towards Ukip. Would it not?

Fine if you're happy with your choice. That was your choice. If I want to make an opinion of you based on your voting choice, what do you care?

Plaid because our local Plaid man is fantastic. Although it would probably have to be Labour just to try and oust the Tories. I support Labour and Jeremy Corbyn but not my local Labour person.

Chikara

You can add "Corbynite who dislikes a lot of the Labour MPs but supports left-wing politics in general but was very 50/50 over remain/leave until voting day" to that list, that's me!