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COULD MY HOUSE HAVE A GHOST?

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user1473872482 · 27/09/2016 20:52

Since last year I have had strange going ons in my house. For example - seeing things out of the corner of my eyes, a quick glimpse of ghost child, a white sort of apparition walking around my bed at night when I was trying to get to sleep and something white being thrown in my direction and when I look to pick it up it is not there.

Could I be imagining these things?

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blushrush · 05/10/2016 15:09

In that example, it was obvious. I'm not saying you should always run off and claim "ghosts!" whenever faced with a quandry, only that in some cases, there is no obvious explanation and therefore there is a bit of wiggle room for alternative possibilities, such as paranormal events.

Arfarfanarf · 05/10/2016 15:10

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BertrandRussell · 05/10/2016 15:17

"only that in some cases, there is no obvious explanation"

Could you give me an example?

blushrush · 05/10/2016 15:31

Arf Yes, though I was using that only as an example of something that has not been conclusively proved, but instead has many plausible theories. (I would rather believe in ghosts than miracles, to be honest...;))

BertrandRussell Didn't I already do that, like, twice now? You just told me to go Google them.

Okay, so how about KIC 8462852 as an example? Scientists have said they have no obvious explanation - www.sciencealert.com/scientists-can-t-explain-the-bizarre-mass-of-objects-orbiting-a-distant-star and the article even says: " There are a number of reasonable possibilities to consider, and yep, aliens is actually one of them"

So, here is a case where there is no obvious explanation, surely?

littleprincesssara · 05/10/2016 16:01

Re: Miracle of the Sun. Fairly obviously the sun did not change colour, drop from the sky or zigzag to and from earth, or it would have been witnessed by countless millions worldwide (and certainly would not have been overlooked by every single astronomer in the hemisphere), not just a relatively small number in one location. The rest can be attributed to known psychological phenomena like group hysteria, side effects of staring into the sun, weather phenomena, etc.

Dropa is a hoax someone made up in the 1960s. The guy who wrote the book about Dropa Stones admitted it was a hoax. There does not appear to be any evidence the Dropa Stones ever existed, and most of the details from the stories about them were debunked (there's no record of the people who allegedly discovered them or the top academics and researchers who worked on them even existing, and the museums they were allegedly stored in have denied ever having them).

The 300-million year old screw is most like a fossilised crinoid, at least that's what it looks like.

I actually am really into crypto-all kinds of things-ology and I believe there is a lot we are yet to know. But all things can ultimately be explained by science, if our scientific knowledge increases enough.

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blushrush · 05/10/2016 16:15

So, it's okay to believe in aliens, but not ghosts?

I don't actually believe that ghosts are 'woo' ghoulies with unfinished business, to be honest. Only that there could be 'something' that exists outside of our realm of understanding.

I still don't see how you can say no to ghosts but yay to aliens, when trans-dimensional beings could easily be mistaken for 'ghosts' under the right circumstances.... ;)

BertrandRussell · 05/10/2016 16:17

I really don't understand the relevance of KIC 8462852 here. Could you explain?

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Jasonandyawegunorts · 05/10/2016 16:20

Aren't all ghosts some old man in a mask with some bizarre plot to people away from somewhere while he counterfits money?
I'm pretty sure there was 4 kids and a dog back in the 70's and they debunked pretty much every ghost sighting.

blushrush · 05/10/2016 16:34

Arf I think wires are getting crossed here - I'm open to believe in all sorts! Aliens, paranormal, supernatural, etc... I totally believe that life exists out there somewhere.

I'm just saying that if aliens is a distinct possibility, why not being that, in some circles, could be described as 'ghosts'?

BertrandRussell Are you just trying to wind me up now? ;) Very funny...
I did explain, it's in my post. Go read :)

LurkingHusband · 05/10/2016 16:35

Only that there could be 'something' that exists outside of our realm of understanding.

Of course there is - it should go without saying. But not understanding something (or not being able to understand it) doesn't make it supernatural.

Look at mobile phone tariffs for example. No one really understands them. But they're hardly the work of Beelzebub are they ?

Jasonandyawegunorts · 05/10/2016 16:39

But they're hardly the work of Beelzebub are they ?

There's a conspiracy theory that Mobile phones are from the devil....

Arfarfanarf · 05/10/2016 16:44

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blushrush · 05/10/2016 17:03

Arf It is a very interesting topic! I love this stuff Grin

But they're hardly the work of Beelzebub are they ?

Maybe not, but Npower tariffs definitely are!

BertrandRussell · 05/10/2016 17:20

KIC 8462852 is an astronomical phenomenon which is being studied and which isn't yet fully understood.

I don't understand- genuinely-what that has to do with the supernatural.

blushrush · 06/10/2016 08:04

Definition of supernatural: (of a manifestation or event) attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature.
"a supernatural being"

Aliens (one of the currently discussed theories), or extraterrestrial life, would fall under this definition.

JustAnotherPoster00 · 06/10/2016 08:47

I think you're being disingenuous blush, the thread is about ghosts or in my opinion the absence of them, so what has aliens got to do with anything tbh

blushrush · 06/10/2016 09:03

It was an example I was using in an on-going conversation, can't be bothered to go all over it again. Nevermind, this thread has gone so way off I wouldn't be surprised if we find aliens at the end of it...

BertrandRussell · 06/10/2016 10:03

The possibility of life elsewhere in the universe is not "beyond scientific understanding"!

Arfarfanarf · 06/10/2016 14:40

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HermioneWeasley · 06/10/2016 14:45

blush the possibility of alien life is not beyond scientific understanding or in conflict with any laws of physics.

Ghosts are.

You seem to be having some difficulty with these concepts

myownprivateidaho · 06/10/2016 14:48

Maybe this has been said before or maybe the OP is long gone... but if still reading, maybe make sure your carbon monoxide reader is working properly? CO poisoning can cause hallucinations (and kill you).

hopetobehappy · 06/10/2016 14:59

www.tomorrowsworld.org/magazines/2013/may-june/the-miracle-of-dna
Everything comes back to this. DNA. The chapter "Dare to deny a designer" is interesting.