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to ask if you would vote for Corbyn and what area of the country you are in?

753 replies

WillyW8nker · 27/09/2016 14:43

Just curious as to whether Corbyn's re-election means his popularity is better than the polls suggest and also if there is a divide in the geographical location of his supporters.

So, would you vote for Corbyn if there was a GE tomorrow and what part of the country are you in?

Me: I would vote for him. I am in London.

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EnthusiasmDisturbed · 01/10/2016 22:04

i can't remember a leader of a party that has received such adulation all mistakes are the fault of others or he simply didn't understand the situation, script was written for him and so on ffs he is the leader of the party

And of course the media are bias so let's overlook the connections to terrorists that he followers believe can be glossed over Hmm

NNChangeAgain · 01/10/2016 22:08

I'm a bit torn because we have an extremely good local labour MP....she has been absolutely destroyed by the Corbyn wing of the party

Sounds like she'll be one of the MPs deselected and replaced by a candidate more sympathetic to JCs leadership and the direction of the party.

Whether those new candidates will attract the votes of "tribal" labour voters like yourself remains to be seen.

maninawomansworld01 · 02/10/2016 00:25

I'm in Gloucestershire and I wouldn't vote for Corbyn if you held a gun to my head.
I would literally put my 3.5 year old son in office first.

BakewellTartAgain · 02/10/2016 10:32

Limelight, I used MN to similar purpose during the Scottish Independence referendum!

OhGodWhatTheHellNow · 02/10/2016 20:23

Not if my life depended on it, awful, arrogant, entitled man.

North Wales

I was also a labour activist for many years, really can't see all the shiny new members leafletting on a rainy Sunday but they know so much better than us...

Rainbunny · 02/10/2016 20:50

OhGod - I can just imagine some of the encounters between new Corbyn supporting members and voters they are canvassing...

Corbyn supporter: " Can we count on your vote for a new government for people led by Corbyn?"
Voter: "I'm not sure about Corbyn's economic policies, where would the money come from? It doesn't sound very realistic to me."
Corbyn supporter: "Oh fuck off and vote Tory then, you're clearly a right-wing Blairite."

At least that's how the responses have been in my experience of commenting on news sites like the Guardian if I ask a question that critiques Corbyn's policies...

CockacidalManiac · 02/10/2016 20:54

Rainbunny, my thoughts exactly.

palanca · 02/10/2016 21:21

so coming back to my question, why did "labour" supporters choose dear JC when they must have known from the polls that he is unelectable? are they in fact not real labour supporters but people having a laugh or is that the JC supporters do not believe the polls and/or think that they can change people's minds? I am honestly totally mystified ....

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 02/10/2016 21:29

They basically believe they are right and everyone else is wrong.

If you dare say anything about JC insults are thrown.

It is always JC will get into power, not Labour.

Even Clive Lewis is getting it now for stating Labour policy.

Labour speakers were having a go at him at the Tory party conference. You couldn't make it up.

NNChangeAgain · 02/10/2016 21:44

rainbunny I expect that Local hustings events will need heavy policing - they're bad tempered affairs at the best of times!

CockacidalManiac · 02/10/2016 22:11

Even Clive Lewis is getting it now for stating Labour policy.

I know, and he's as corbynite as you get! It truly is a personality cult; you cannot go against the Dear Leader. It's proper ideological purity stuff.

IsayIdontknow · 02/10/2016 22:37

Not in a million years will I vote for JC. London. He is incompetent and a weak leader who cannot work with anyone other than his true believers, who may all have different political and non political motives behind. I was truely upset by what has happened to Labour, but no longer, not worth the angst really.

tinymeteor · 02/10/2016 23:03

No. London.

JulietteL · 02/10/2016 23:06

Not a chance in hell. Kent.

onwardsandupwardss · 03/10/2016 11:14

I'm not especially a fan of Corbyn or otherwise. But to those stating that claims of 'media bias' against Corbyn are conspiracy theorists... there is actually good evidence to suggest otherwise.

There was a peer reviewed study conducted by the London School of Economics this year that found exactly that.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-media-bias-attacks-75-per-cent-three-quarters-fail-to-accurately-report-a7140681.html

“Our analysis shows that Corbyn was thoroughly delegitimised as a political actor from the moment he became a prominent candidate and even more so after he was elected as party leader,” Dr Bart Cammaerts, the project director concluded.

“Denying such an important political actor a voice or distorting his views and ideas through the exercise of mediated power is highly problematic.”

PickledCauliflower · 03/10/2016 11:29

I wouldn't vote for Corbyn. If there was a general election tomorrow I wouldn't vote. I've never voted Tory or Lib Dem and can't see my self ever doing so
I would normally vote Labour but not with him as leader (and McDonnell as Chancellor).
I live in the North West of England.

Realhousewivesofshit · 03/10/2016 11:34

Bollocks! Every single leader of a party is scrutinised and vilified by the press. They need to accept this. Some leaders put forward good Costed policies and engage with the electorate and some don't.

Ed was a disaster as was Michael foot for labour as was EDS and Haigue for the tories.

Corbyn is a disaster and worse than the weak Ed he's actually pretty dangerous in encouraging mysogynistic and vile anti Semitic views.

I think the vast majority of new labour members are kids who don't have a clue or care about policies but like to feel edgy, the old militant tendancy brigade who Neil Kinnock expelled, middle class champagne socialists who are financially secure but love spouting their left politics as it makes them feel superior. and the rest are trouble making tories.

No one with any sense belives this ridiculous man could lead a country. It's sad because the tories will now go on and on.

onwardsandupwardss · 03/10/2016 11:45

I'm guessing you didn't look at the study in any depth. One of the main findings was that his views are distorted/ not accurately represented in/by the media. So actually the opposite of scrutiny. Like I say - I'm not especially a fan of Corbyn and I'm not strongly drawn in opposition to him either. Certainly not looking for a scrap on the matter. However this was a respectable study conducted by a serious institution - dismissing it out of hand would tend to suggest a certain level arrogance / bias yourself ?

CockacidalManiac · 03/10/2016 11:48

I've read a good response to that study by a journo. I can't remember the link though; basically, the media like a 'Winner'. If someone is perceived as weak, it's easier to 'go for them'. It's like Ed Miliband, he faced all the usual anti Labour stuff, but was also seen as a bit of a comedy character. His days were numbered from then on.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 03/10/2016 11:50

Maybe if Corbyn wasn't so weak, actually showed action rather than words, said how he would pay for his spending spree, didn't have certain 'friends', didn't just attend rallies where he is preaching to the converted, didn't give free votes because he finds certain topics difficult or his views aren't party policy

They wouldn't have anything to have a go about.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 03/10/2016 11:52

I'm guessing you didn't look at the study in any depth. One of the main findings was that his views are distorted/ not accurately represented in/by the media.

You don't need the media to see him in 'action'

Pre recording a radio interview as it seems he isn't a 'morning person' really?

Also he refuses to go on many programmes so not exactly helping himself is he.

EnthusiasmDisturbed · 03/10/2016 12:08

He has been an MP for many years

Much of what he has done can not in anyway be reported in a positive way

I think the press have been quite lenient on him it suits the right leaning press to have him as leader come a general election we shall really see his credibility torn to shreds a few pictures of him with Gerry Adams (pre IRA cease fire) and other friends Labour can not only kiss goodbye the any chance chance of winning but also many many seats.

he is a disaster for Labour most the press are quite happy for the Labour Party to dig their own grave because that is certainly what is happening now

NNChangeAgain · 03/10/2016 12:13

“Our analysis shows that Corbyn was thoroughly delegitimised as a political actor from the moment he became a prominent candidate and even more so after he was elected as party leader,”

The question is, why had Corbyn been subject to that kind of media bias, when other politicians haven't?
He certainly isn't the most interesting of politicians, doesn't lend himself to column inches through his exploits (except when he sat on a train floor).

Being the leader of a opposition party requires credibility with the media - if he doesn't have it for whatever reason, even if the media are being " unfair", then he isn't the right person for the job.

It's tough shit on him really - he may be the best leader the party has ever had, but if the media don't give him a fair hearing, then he's not the right person for the job.

Even Angela Eagle got less stick and she made some right blunders.

Like it or not, the democracy of free speech means that the popular media can, and does, influence how politicians are presented to the electorate. That's the way it works. It may not be right, but no government has yet restricted the media to that extent.

If someone becomes the target of negative media and attention and puts the party at risk, then, in the current model, the right thing to do is to step down - not declare an aspiration to do a "different kind of politics" and say that those who disagree are "slow learners" Hmm

onwardsandupwardss · 03/10/2016 12:13

Ok, but if you read my post it was in direct response to those who feel that claims of media bias against Corbyn is 'conspiracy theory'. There is evidence (rather than just conjecture) that there indeed is media bias against Corbyn, and that his political views are often distorted / not accurately reported by the press (to a greater extent than other political actors). You have already decided that you don't like him and that is fine, up to you. However I am not arguing 'for' Corbyn. I was making a specific point about a specific claim that I've seen a few times on this thread.

onwardsandupwardss · 03/10/2016 12:15

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