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To reserve the right to be messy?

41 replies

littleacceb · 10/09/2016 12:15

My mother left her partner overseas and has returned home penniless, having not had a job in 25 years and burned through the moderate divorce settlement from when she and my father went their separate ways.

She has been living with us for two months now, and only in the past fortnight confirmed that this isn't just a visit but a permanent relocation. She has fully occupied our spare room and spends her time walking the dog, washing up, doing laundry, visiting friends around the country and watching tv.

The first three items are helpful, but not enough to make up for the extra mouth to feed and the loss of a spare room. She refuses to provide any childcare - I'm self-employed and work mostly from home, so that'd be a great help - but that is absolutely her prerogative. It's clear that she will need to get a job, if not to contribute to the household then to cover things like clothes, hair, nails and lunches out that are being picked up by sympathetic friends and my single younger sister, not to mention the repairs needed to her twelve-year-old performance car.

My husband doesn't like her (or anyone else really) going in our room, but this is something she just cannot seem to compute. She says "oh get over it". He found her in our bathroom today; her response was that she didn't know he was home, still failing to understand that it's an "at all" situation. He was pissy with her about it, so she launched a tirade at me about how he's an arrogant snob.

She hates that our house is messy, but I just don't care enough to dedicate time to clearing up beyond the basic. I'd rather do most other things - play with the kids, work, read. Apparently we think we're better than other people and that's why we don't tidy up. She's always thought this of people who work - that they think they're better because they're busy. She tries to block people from coming into the house because apparently I should be ashamed of how messy it is. But I'm not ashamed. It's not like it's gross or smelly - it's untidy.

Anyway, apparently there's no compromise to be had. She won't get a job or apply for benefits until she's decided whether she's going to live at her friend's house (in her 25-year-old daughter's bedroom, with all her teen decor still present) or here.

If she's here, she won't stop going in our room, and apparently that's only because she wants to keep the place tidy.

I guess she's just freaking out. It must be terrifying starting afresh with nothing, and I honestly don't feel that she'd feel welcome anywhere. She had a rough childhood and a horrendous marriage, and none of us children have turned out how she wanted. But you can't travel on that feeling, or some suppressed version of it, forever.

OP posts:
FeckTheMagicDragon · 10/09/2016 17:45

Ask her who's home does she think this is. Because at the moment she is treating you both like its hers, and you are messy teenagers who need to be brought into line and have no right to privacy. Don't be swayed by tears and emotional blackmail.

FeckTheMagicDragon · 10/09/2016 17:46

Oh and tell her it's not a matter for negotiation. Your house, your rules.

MrsJayy · 10/09/2016 17:56

Your mum sounds a complete drama Llama and whats this swanning about like the queen of sheba lunches parties mooching of peopls blah blah . You dont need to go into a huge conversation ask her when she plans to move out , your husband might start blaming you you are going to feel torn and guilty you are going to have to take a deep breath and move her out

littleacceb · 11/09/2016 19:06

She got back from her friend's house this afternoon. I said "this isn't working. You're going to need to stop living here". She said "Thanks, now I'm screwed." She asked if she could leave some stuff here; I said yes. She asked if she could borrow a suitcase; I said yes.

Then she left for her trip to Menorca without saying goodbye (DS5 in floods of tears when he discovered she'd gone) and left most of her stuff unpacked in the spare room.

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Arfarfanarf · 11/09/2016 19:11

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Veterinari · 11/09/2016 19:21

She swanned off to Menorca? Is this real? Where are all the party/holiday invitations coming from?

OP you should pack her bags and have them waiting for her when she gets back.

TheInimitableMrsFanshawe · 11/09/2016 19:22

Look, this situation is of her making - it sounds like she's had a pretty shit time in the past but that must be at least 10 years ago. You've done your bit to help her out, she can't respect your wishes even though you've explained that you find her attitude unhelpful and hurtful. Don't make this your fault or your responsibility.

puglife15 · 11/09/2016 19:22

How do you have a spare room with at least 5 DCs?! (Misses point)

puglife15 · 11/09/2016 19:27

Sorry meant to say, yanbu to be messy but living in mess can be stressful - I know that I'm struggling to keep on to of things at home due to a lack of time and I do sometimes find the clutter gets to me. Maybe that's why she keeps bringing it up though.

But whether she finds it stressful or not, she sounds quite rude and disrespectful. I can see why you want to help your mum out, but it's not fair on the rest of your family having to put up with her.

To leave on holiday purposefully without saying goodbye is petty and mean especially where there are children involved.

Your don't need that shit.

Sick to your guns.

sentia · 11/09/2016 19:28

It's not about being messy is it? It's about boundaries (her not respecting yours) and self-sufficiency (an essential part of being an adult). You're quite right to expect her to understand there is a need for both.

I'm not sure why she's trying to guilt you into allowing her to sponge off you forever and being so childish, surely she realises she can't stay forever? I get that she's probably terrified and ashamed to be so dependent on others, but how is lashing out at anyone going to help?

What do you want?

maggiethemagpie · 11/09/2016 19:44

My mother comes to my house and invades my personal space on the pretence of cleaning/tidying, I have told her not to many times but she doesn't listen.

The only thing that works is literally getting a piece of paper and writing 'Please do not enter' and taping it over the door /wall (ie the bit where the door joins the wall so it covers the crack) with lots of brown tape.

Which is a bugger and not good for paintwork, but it's easier than telling my mum to get lost somehow.

StackladysMorphicResonator · 11/09/2016 19:46

  1. Where did she get enough money for a trip abroad but somehow not have enough to contribute to rent/food/bills?
  1. If you don't kick her out this WILL destroy your marriage. Sad

You have to be the adult here and get her out once and for all.

Sillybillybonker · 11/09/2016 19:51

Take no notice of her tears and tantrums. She is using them to make you feel guilty; as a way of controlling you.

AlpacaPicnic · 11/09/2016 19:51

Well you can buy a big fuck-off lock for your door, and other doors that she's no business entering. Of you can buy some cheapo suitcases and pack her shit up and have it ready for her to collect on her way to somewhere else.
But either way, someone who is 'homeless' and needs a massive favour like a roof over their head should be respecting boundaries and helping out, not picking fights and criticising the way you live. Not because she's family but because it's the decent thing to do.

NatalieRushman · 11/09/2016 20:00

She's taking the piss. If you don't kick her out, she's going to walk all over you for the rest of your life. Give her a week to sort out accommodation, and don't let her back in at the deadline.

You say you grew up thinking dv was normal, because that's how it always was in your home. Your dc could grow up thinking that it's normal to let people dictate to them in their own home, and walk all over them.

SquinkiesRule · 11/09/2016 21:19

God what an awful mother you have, so sorry OP. Pack her stuff into boxes and stick it in the garage or shed.
Text her while she's away that she needs to move somewhere else.

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