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To think MIL’s comments during my pregnancy are horribly inappropriate?

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IsThisYourSanderling · 14/08/2016 20:44

After three gruelling years of infertility, I’m due my first baby in six weeks’ time, and throughout my pregnancy MIL has been making comments about things going wrong. Today she noticed via Instagram that we’ve bought a cot, and texted to say that she thinks it’s wrong to buy big things in advance, in case something bad happens. She said the same when we were visiting her a month ago – that we were ‘brave’ to have bought things, because something might still happen. These hints about the possibility of a stillbirth feel horribly inappropriate and insensitive, especially as the due date is approaching. I got a bit upset about it this evening.

It goes further back too. She visited us when I was 13 weeks pregnant, and treated me to detailed stories of everyone she’s ever known who either had a stillbirth, a miscarriage, or themselves almost died in childbirth. It was barrel-scraping stuff – her neighbour’s cousin’s bridesmaid, that sort of thing. I did ask her to stop, but she smiled and carried on.

Before that, when we told her I was pregnant at about 6 weeks, her first response was to tell us not to get excited because my endometriosis means I have a ‘toxic womb’.

She has four healthy children and has never experienced a miscarriage (she told me it had never happened to her while regaling me with tales of others’ losses), so it’s not that she’s over-anxious based any losses of her own. She also has five healthy grandchildren. My own pregnancy has been healthy throughout, thankfully.

I just don’t get it. How normal is this sort of behaviour? Has anyone else experienced it, and did you just brush it off in the end?

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Sara107 · 14/08/2016 22:30

Of course you need to buy basic things like a cot if the baby is due in 6 weeks! I had a similar situation to your's and did feel that it was tempting fate a bit to start preparing stuff too soon, but with a healthy pregnancy coming towards the end, you do need to have your cot ready, and your bag packed! Your MIL sounds awful, why would anyone want to tell horror stories like that, regardless whether you have had trouble getting to this stage or not. It's just unkind and unpleasant, it seems like!e she is almost revelling in the distress of all these other people, apart from the fact she's upsetting you. Tell your dh that you don't want to hear it, and won't see her again before the birth. Good luck, hope it goes well.

GabsAlot · 14/08/2016 22:38

so she phones u to tell u all this?
just put the phone down say youre not lstening to this nonsense anymore its giving u stress

IsThisYourSanderling · 14/08/2016 22:44

I'm enjoying people's suggestions that I trash the spare room to make it uninhabitable - that is brilliant and really cheering me up Grin. We considered saying she can't stay in there because DH is using it on work nights, but given that he'll be off work when they visit (so as not to leave me and baby alone with her), that won't cut it. Hmm, what else...

jscp She's 70. And yes, generally quite morbid / neurotic. She's welcome to prepare herself for 'the worst' privately, but why do it to me too, six weeks before due date?

HarryPotter the toxic womb thing was shocking, and we didn't even say anything at the time, which I'm kicking myself for now. I think we were just so surprised and delighted to be pregnant that we just ignored it.

I do stand up for myself when I'm around her, but it's hard work. The woman has no boundaries.

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RochelleGoyle · 14/08/2016 22:52

Haven't read the entire thread but what an awful woman your MIL seems to be. You'd be completely justified in losing it with her...I would have long before now!

Stinkadoodle · 14/08/2016 22:56

I wouldn't have her stay for a week if it was me. She will put you down and make you feel you are doing it wrong and say that its not good for the baby etc.
My friend let her MIL from Australia come to stay for 2 weeks and said it was hell. She didn't do anything to help and my friend had to cope with a new baby and running around after a very difficult MIL who pointed out her flaws constantly.
You will worry about it beforehand and it will cloud those first precious weeks with your baby. Seriously not worth it.
Good luck with whatever you choose to do and congrats on the baby.x

pigsknickers · 14/08/2016 22:57

I haven't got anything to add but just wanted to say your username is awesome :-)

MrsEvadneCake · 14/08/2016 23:04

Just say when you come to visit you can't stay with us. It isn't convenient. And then repeat and repeat. It's ok to not have her stay. It's your family home. Not hers. If she doesn't like it you may well not get visited at all which sounds like it wouldn't be a bad thing!

IsThisYourSanderling · 14/08/2016 23:07

I love 'Oh shut up you morbid bitch' too Grin

We will find some way of making it so that she has to stay in a hotel, since no-one is saying that's an unreasonable thing to expect her to do. Our tentative plan is to a) not tell her when I go into labour, to wait until after the birth, and b) in the same birth announcement text, to say that we've booked her and FIL a room at the local hotel for four weeks' time.

At that point I will the inevitable fall out and concentrate on our lovely baby.

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IsThisYourSanderling · 14/08/2016 23:11

Thank you pigsknickers Smile

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IsThisYourSanderling · 14/08/2016 23:12

*I will try to ignore the fall out, that should say

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Sunshineonacloudyday · 14/08/2016 23:15

I prefer decrepit bitch I like to insult and offend.

NameChange30 · 14/08/2016 23:18

I suggest you read "Toxic In-laws", your husband reads "Toxic Parents", and then you work together on setting some very firm boundaries with MIL.

Shut her down when she says crap like that. Say something polite but assertive to make it clear that you object to what she's said, then change the subject. If she won't drop it or she says something very hurtful, be prepared to leave or put the phone down.

She doesn't get to decide whether or not she stays over at your home. You do. And if you don't want her to stay you don't need a reasons. No is a full sentence! However you and your DH could just say that you won't want house guests after the birth. (Then if she tries to argue just say it's not up for debate and change the subject. Rinse and repeat as necessary.)

thatwouldbeanecumenicalmatter · 14/08/2016 23:22

You know it's not too late to get a good builder in to create a fake wall over the spare bedroom door, wallpaper over it and when MIL asks where the room has gone deny all knowledge? 'What spare room MIL?', 'I think you're thinking of our last house', 'All that travelling has got you all confused, here let me take your bags to the hotel down the road'.

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Smurfit · 14/08/2016 23:26

Maybe your own mother is already using the spare room? Or just flat out tell her you don't want anyone else in living in the house while you're bonding with the baby.

LAmusic · 14/08/2016 23:29

Think of it this way, you're 34 weeks down, 6 (or less - babies come early and are TOTALLY healthy, I was 10 weeks early) to go! Good luck Cake

deste · 14/08/2016 23:30

Doom and gloom, mention that to her. As my friend says to her DH " is your cup half empty or half full because as far as I can see there's nothing in it"

Lilacpink40 · 14/08/2016 23:34

she doesn't have boundaries

So hard to fight back against this if you're a nice normal person. You'll have to be on guard all the time Sad

I can only suggest avoidance as it doesn't sound as though she's reflective so would be unlikely to respond to feedback.

Good luck with the rest of pregnancy and birth, it will be an exciting time Grin

ExtraHotLatteToGo · 14/08/2016 23:51

😊Congratulations! 💐🍫🎉🎉🍫💐🍾🍸

How very, very exciting, your very own bundle of joy in 6 short weeks!! We will need an update on this thread you know! B/G, weight etc

As for TheEvilOne, I'll come & stay in your spare room and I'll happily tell her to chuff off! Stupid woman.

I 'get' that she might have been brought up not to buy for the baby before it's born, that kind of worked many, many years ago when they kept you in for 10 days. The 10 mins they keep you in for now makes that impossible. But it the rest of it, no one is 'brought up' to say those things and your DH should have said so. I hope he's more on his toes when they're there & he'd better retune himself to notice her nasty comments not filter them out, he has a wife & child to protect from the mad cow.

Then be very, very, very busy for months & months after this visit. You shouldn't have to put up with her shite.

WindPowerRanger · 14/08/2016 23:57

You don't have to be polite in the face of this kind of thing, you know. If you abandon the usual proprieties and say something direct, your MIL is much more likely to get the point quickly.

I am not recommending complete sweary rudeness, just something like "Stop. Stop. I don't want to hear it. All these horror stories are unpleasant, and irrelevant. Why do you do it?" delivered in as even a tone as you can manage.

If your MIL doesn't stop after that, you leave the room.

Mumberjack · 14/08/2016 23:58

What an insensitive cow!

For what it's worth, I did have a stillborn baby. But the memories of choosing and building her nursery furniture are so precious to us, and I'd never regret doing it. It was very insensitive when people alluded to 'buying things beforehand' being in any way causal to our baby's passing. Wtf.

Congratulations and hope the next few weeks go smoothly Xx

Dozer · 15/08/2016 00:02

Your H needs to read those books and deal with this now in case she continues when DC arrives!

don't be having her to stay AT ALL right now, and H should bloody tell her it's because of all of her awful remarks! Shocking.

80sMum · 15/08/2016 00:04

Only 6 weeks to go, OP! How exciting for you and what a pity that your rather insensitive MIL is spoiling it for you.

It's a curious thing, this "don't buy anything until baby is born" attitude. I don't really understand the reasoning behind it to be honest.

Lilacpink40 · 15/08/2016 00:11

Mumberjack that's awful. Of course buying being normal things wouldn't have changed what happened. Some people are so thick. Hope you've found peace with it and are happy. Flowers

AnnieOnnieMouse · 15/08/2016 00:13

I'm in my 60s, so not much younger than your MIL, and I think she's a cow with no consideration or verbal filter.
My mum, who was born over 100 years ago was superstitious about buying baby stuff, but still helped us prepare - family tradition, mum buys the pram. She had had problems having babies, but never, ever regaled me with any horror stories, and neither did MIL.
As others have said, DH needs to carry on getting tough.
Take BIL's advice - it must have been sorely won.
One slant to get her to stay in an hotel - MIL - you'd be far better staying in an hotel, we would feel awful at you (at your age) being woken several times a night by baby crying and us getting up and down to see to her/him.
good luck

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 15/08/2016 00:45

Absofuckinglutely make sure she cannot stay in your home!! You don't want that kind of negativity around you in the early days, when everything is already quite hard going, with lack of sleep etc. God, someone like that would push anyone into PND!!

Hints:
• when I had Ds1, I ended up co-sleeping with him. DH tried to sleep in with us, but found it too disturbing and he had to get his sleep so he could go to work. (I know, I know, feeble)
So he ended up in the spare bed, while I had DS1 in the double with me - no spare room left! Grin

• When she starts banging on about bad things happening with pregnancy, newborns etc., start recounting all the people you know who have died before her and hint that she's lucky to still be alive really at her age, because you never know what could be lurking around the corner... (I realise this is stooping to her level but feckit, she's made you miserable, offer some back)

• Call her Cassandra (foreseer of doom) Grin

It comes to something if even your BIL is saying "don't have her in the house" - FGS make sure you take this advice! You CAN do it, you CAN stand up to her and say "No. No room here. Go to the hotel" and you MUST or she will ride roughshod over you forever more.

My poor mum had to deal with such a one as your MIL - but it was her SIL dripping poison into their MIL's ear. Mum sadly lost her 2nd baby, so when she was pg again after, this fucking bitch kept telling their MIL that it was down to my mum's "bad blood" and no doubt she would lose the next one too. MIL, of course, passed this on (she was a bit a of a bitch too) and told my Mum that she never wanted to see her son in the state he was after the loss of no. 2 - as if Mum's feelings simply didn't count, and as though she could have actually done anything about it!! Anyway - pg. no.3 went fine, baby born no problem, but the relationship between Mum and her female ILs was ruined forever.

Good luck with your pg, birth and baby - and remember, keep the harridan out of your life and home as much as possible! Thanks

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