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To think that 14 (barely) is too young to stay out all night in Soho?

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overprotective · 11/08/2016 12:50

DS, 14 at the end of July, wants to stay out all night queuing outside a shop he likes in Soho. In the past he's gotten up really early (5am) and taken the a train into town with friends to queue outside the shop. I'm fine with that but feel that overnight is too much.

He was trying to arrange a whole group of boys. Three are now allowed and plan to take the early train. One has gotten permission and one has been told he can do it but only if DS can do it. Now DS is angry because I'm 'ruining it for everyone' by saying no. I'm a bit cheesed off with the parents who put the responsibility for saying no onto me. Now DS feels responsible for whether that boy can go or not. I've offered to stay in a hotel in Soho and DS can come and sleep there then go back early but I don't think the friend would be allowed under those circumstances and it would be unfair for the one boy with permission to stand there on his own.

My concerns are:

They're very young.
The trains stop running overnight so at one point they would be unable to get home if something went wrong.
They will most likely spend their time playing Pokemon Go so their phones will die at some point overnight. Spoke to DS about this and he swears it wouldn't happen but I've heard that before.
They could be in a situation that they are too young to handle.
The nature of Soho overnight with it's bars, strip joints, etc.

I feel quite strongly that it's not appropriate but I'm feeling guilty right now and feeling the pressure. DH is no help. He's away on a business trip and I think he would be OK with it as he finds it hard to say no to the children. I'm always the bad cop. Usually that's fine but I hate that everyone (including the other parents) have shifted the responsibility onto me for this.

Help me mumsnetters! AIBU?

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Postitblue · 11/08/2016 21:51

As someone who goes out for drinks and dinner in soho often and used to work there during the week - big fat no from me. As others have mentioned, whilst it's nowhere as bad as it was / seedy, there are many homeless and beggers, and rough sleepers as well as pissed people staggering around at all hours. Not the place for kids (especially today's sheltered kids!) to be spending the night. Realistically they would probably be ok but- it only takes one altercation or junkie wanting to rob one of them when they go to pee etc. soho is a place for adults - not children.

kitnkaboodle · 11/08/2016 21:52

From the point of view of someone who has no knowledge of this kind of cultural thing, and who lives as far away from metropolitan life as you can get - this sounds totally insane ... you're going to waste a night (and the next day cos you'll have had no sleep) queuing in soho to placate your son?? What would happen if you actually said no?? I can't help but think that you're secretly looking forward to it - otherwise I don't understand. I hope he's got some other interests other than queuing and status symbols Confused If you really don't fancy it yourself then don't be a doormat!

spidey66 · 12/08/2016 07:05

I'm not a parent but.....if I was I wouldn't let my 14 year old stay out all the night there. While it's probably safer than it used to be, there will be as others mentioned unsavoury people there which a child of that age wouldn't be able to deal with-drunks, drug dealers etc. OK it will be policed but still.

I'm a 50 year old born and bred Londoner btw.

DoNotBlameMeIVotedRemain · 12/08/2016 07:17

YANBU

timelytess · 12/08/2016 07:19

You and another parent go with them.

blinkowl · 12/08/2016 07:30

Another Londoner who says no to Soho! I wandered onto a Soho street after the theatre recently and was instantly aware of how seedy it all was. There is NO WAY I'd let a 14 year old hang about there all night.

I wouldn't want to do it myself either, but that's your call.

KoalaDownUnder · 12/08/2016 07:32

No way would I either let him go, or go with him.

(An obviously severely uncool.)

overprotective · 17/08/2016 14:23

Yahoo! Apparently the 'drop' isn't that good and the manager of the shop has said no camping. I read that residents want to shut the shop down due to the queues and have complained to the council. No camping out, just an early morning on Thursday for the boys now. Whew!

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daisypond · 17/08/2016 14:51

Phew, you're sorted, then.

I'm another living in London whose DC were making their way alone in and around London in the daytime on various means of transport since year 7 and were doing things in the evenings (to a set venue, such as a gig, from about 14/15). But I'd have been saying no to this.

fishonabicycle · 17/08/2016 15:58

My son is 15 1/2 and sensible and there is no way I would let him do that.

WeeBoobs · 17/08/2016 19:34

Which one is your son, OP? Grin

uk.complex.com/style/2012/07/the-10-types-of-people-that-shop-at-supreme/

Scarydinosaurs · 17/08/2016 19:58

Amazing! No camping for you, less money spent by DS! Win win!

Flashbangandgone · 17/08/2016 20:54

No way would I say yes.... Not even close! It would be utterly irresponsible to let him go.

RedOnHerHedd · 17/08/2016 21:38

I'm glad that decision has been made for you. It would've been an absolute no from me too though.

Nataleejah · 17/08/2016 21:40

Time to teach your son to resist consumerism. Queueing overnight for some rags is bonkers, regardless the age.

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