To wonder if this is what people mean by gentle parenting

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Not sure why a one year old wouldn't have a nappy on as she clearly is not Notts trained at that age my one year old would be become destressed to be constantly wet

And what's the no medication about surely social service would become involved if they got very ill and parents did noting

Very odd

meh - live and let live I think.They clearly love their kids and look after them - good on them for doing their own thing.

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But she wouldn't as her kid had an asthma attack and she went to the hospital. I think that's a dangerous thing to say.

That was to ElspethFlashman

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I'd be interested in what would happen if their children decided at say 12 that they wanted to go to school. Presumably they'd have to agree if practising child led parenting despite their objections to mainstream education.

Well I'm just repeating what she said. She may have brought her kid to hospital that time but do think she'd contemplate chemotherapy? Doubt it.

Most people suspecting asthma would visit a gp and ventolin to hand.....

On her blog, she claims that any woman can have an unassisted beautiful natural birth even if you have twins, a breach baby or placenta previa. It's all just about tuning into your mammalian brain like women have been doing since the dawn of time etc etc (she forgets to mention how many millions have died in the process). I have no time for people who don't vaccinate their children - DS1 had whooping cough when he was 4 weeks old and it was terrifying. Watching a tiny baby going grey every 20 minutes and being given oxygen is not a nice experience. It took over 2 months until he fully recovered and I then spent many months waiting to see if he was brain damaged. I'm very much 'live and let live' when it comes to different approaches to parenting but that doesn't extend to putting other children in danger of horrible preventable illnesses.

I think it was a mistake to go on national TV and to have been interviewed by the newspapers. The interview questions were clearly designed to give contraversial answers.

Lots of people homeschool and it is quite common for reading to start much later than 5, also common in other educational systems in Europe.

She has clearly stated that she did take her son to hospital when he needed treatment. My son has asthma but reacts very badly to Ventolin and with the support of my well researched doctor, I use alternatives to treat it. Here in Switzerland many doctors are trained in alternatives and they are considered as part of range of solutions that can be offered.

I watched them on This Morning and the woman said if her children said they wished to attend mainstream school they could.

I just think she exudes the arrogance of someone who has gotten bloody lucky so far.

ElspethFlashman sorry. I meant her saying it is dangerous. Someone could buy into all the things she says and maybe not treat their own child if he or she had cancer (even though they had medical treatment for their child)

People like this are dangerous as well as stupid. I really, really hope they would abandon their principles and rush their child to hospital for evidence-based treatment in the event of a serious accident or illness. Don't they know that people die of asthma? A simple infection can kill very quickly if it gets out of control. Before we had antibiotics, babies and young children died of childhood infections in horrifying large numbers.

Poor children.

squabble but that's the point I think. They claim to shun modern medicine... But then don't. They claim they wpuld use natural techniques if it can to cancer. But.... They have already shown that they drop their principles.

So they're flakey.

They sound really tedious

I think she said she would allow him to go to school if he asked.

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And none of us can say what we would do if our child had cancer. The arguments by the Australian family linked to above are compelling, even the doctor agreed that they had firmly held beliefs that they had the child's best interest at heart. The mother had seen relatives suffer chemotherapy and radiotherapy and did not believe that the suffering was worth it. I pray never to have to make such a decision but wouldn't judge someone who did.

She is being criticised for 'abandoning her principles' by taking her child to the doctor when he needed it and not when he didn't. I think you are wilfully misinterpreting her principles.

If the dad was a builder and the mum a supermarket worker they would have been taken into care by now.

What always makes me smile to myself is the equating of natural with gentle parenting. I worked in a zoo for more than 10 years. Have you ever watched gorillas or orangutans with infants? Or even macaques? A baby gorilla repeatedly does something annoying, it gets pushed away a couple of times and then whacked. By any gorilla it happens to be annoying. Mum will only intervene if the behaviour of the other gorilla is threatening but it almost never is. I've seen a macaque baby hit so hard that it did a somersault. I've watched gorilla babies running back to mum crying after being walloped.
I am in no way advocating this approach but I always wonder if people who talk about parenting naturally, and using it as an excuse to not really discipline, have ever actually sat and watched what goes on in nature. Great apes are strict disciplinarians. They all seem to get that their offspring will need to function in their society and make sure they have the tools to do so.
Parenting like these guys are seems to me as far removed from natural as you can get. Natural is making sure your kids can cope in the society in which they live.

gentle parents (would never smack

Isn't this just called normal parenting?!

Lots of people homeschool and it is quite common for reading to start much later than 5, also common in other educational systems in Europe

In another article I read, she said she wouldn't homeschool - she doesn't want to follow any curriculum, just have her kids at home and be completely 'off grid'. Even homeschooled kids are on the 'grid'. Hence at 5 years old he is only just recognising letters and numbers

Giving birth without proper medical care, is potentially dangerous. She was lucky. But others might not be so lucky. Have a home birth, but there should be a midwife there.
I know someone who died young because she tried treating her cancer "naturally". Very very sad.

Thing is: a builder & supermarket worker just wouldn't make the required standard:

Off-grid parents usually arrange their work schedule to ensure they can spend maximum quality time with their children

I have a friend that home educates (no curriculum). Her child isn't known to the education department because she's never been registered for school.