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To wonder if this is what people mean by gentle parenting

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pleasemothermay1 · 20/07/2016 13:36

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3699191/Outrage-parents-allow-child-toilet-Morning-floor.html

Not sure why a one year old wouldn't have a nappy on as she clearly is not Notts trained at that age my one year old would be become destressed to be constantly wet

And what's the no medication about surely social service would become involved if they got very ill and parents did noting

Very odd

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goddessoftheharvest · 20/07/2016 17:02

I was a full term breastfeeder/cosleeping parent back in the day. I knew quite a lot of people like this- radical unschoolers etc etc
Some were fab- really lovely people who did brilliant stuff with their kids, who were also lovely

However there were a few who would not discipline their children AT ALL...mostly they used similar reasoning to this couple in question. Funny that this little boy was jumping about on the sofa....it was a sofa incident that opened my eyes to similar parenting methods, when a mum I knew fell out with her family member. The family member had objected to the mum's four kids jumping on her new sofa- they broke it down the middle. The mum proceeded to moan about her spirited children, and how respecting her "little wildlings" was so important even if it meant alienating people

I was skint at the time. If anyone had broken my sofa, we would have been sitting on the floor for the next six months. I had more sympathy with the family member

I'm all for being free spirited, but not when it means damaging other people's property ffs

sandy30 · 20/07/2016 17:10

Poor kid will get sore with damp cloth against the skin. Refusing to visit a doctor (when the kid gets ill) is neglect

sandy30 · 20/07/2016 17:11

(And I still breastfeed my 2 year-old)

pleasemothermay1 · 20/07/2016 17:16

Would you still breast feed at 5/6 years old genuine question

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Floggingmolly · 20/07/2016 17:16

Imagine living next door to those attention seeking gobshites!

00100001 · 20/07/2016 17:19

It is very interesting theybshun modern medicine. Except when Uly had an asthma attack, they went to hospital, but then go on to say if any one if them got cancer they'd heal naturally etc.

BOLLOCKS

They'd go to hospital, because they have already shown that when something is life threatening they abandon their principles.

Only the strictest people refuse medicine and treatments. Just the other month a child died in Australiabecause the parents refused the treatment because they didn't believe in it.
au.news.yahoo.com/a/31297590/court-orders-chemo-for-dying-boy-6-after-parents-refuse-treatment/#page1

These parents in the original article are fakers basically.

BluishSky · 20/07/2016 17:22

Did they see it happen - did they know?

Could they have seen ignoring it on camera in the hope no one noticed (and apologised profusely as soon as the cameras were off?)

Who can stop a toddler having an accident?

(Disclaimer : I watched the video, but didn't read the article).

Idliketobeabutterfly · 20/07/2016 17:23

Tbh I just hoped they were self funding. I think that the mother also thinks they will catch up on their reading, writings and maths when they show interest.

00100001 · 20/07/2016 17:23

If they have no rules, they will struggle when the enter the adult world, seriously struggle.

The mother seems to think they will be entrenepeurs Confused and run their own businesses.

SouperSal · 20/07/2016 17:25

Refusing to visit a doctor (when the kid gets ill) is neglect

Depends on the illness. DD (5) has rarely seen the GP. I took her to OOH when she was very poorly with scarlet fever, and to the GP when her dose of chicken pox appeared to be more than would be expected. I wouldn't give her antibiotics unless absolutely necessary (she's only had them for the SF). We don't give calpol for minor illness either. We use hot honey and lemon and manuka honey for colds (nothing a doctor could do with a cold anyway). Suncream is only on days where the UV is high/very high, and we try to make sure she gets 20 minutes without it in the morning for the vitamin D. She's fully immunised.

Now during the school holidays she will go to bed much later as her body clock prefers (10-11pm) and wake when she she wants to. We bedshared when she was a baby and she often will now. I wouldn't hesitate to homeschool if mainstream school didn't work out for her.

We've never had a naughty step, don't punish, speak to her with respect but also set very clear boundaries.

Her teachers/headteacher have nothing but good things to say about her. She's bright, happy, independent and inquisitive.

So in short, I kinda see where this couple are coming from.

00100001 · 20/07/2016 17:25

I don't think not being able to red and write at 5 is a huge issue tbh.now if he was 15 and couldn't, then that would be a problem.

AnotherUsernameBitesTheDust · 20/07/2016 17:25

I was all ready to get judgy on them and then realised that I did most of
The same stuff when mine were young. Breastfed - though 21 months was the longest I did it for, co-slept, used cloth nappies (though had to stop for youngest as he got horrendous rash that only disposables stopped)

I don't see anything wrong with a 5 yo not being able to read, imo they start school too young, and my school child got to the end of reception not being able to read because he wasn't ready.

I don't give medicine for fever either, just for pain, breastmilk is great for eye infections, virtually every mum I know who's breastfed has squirted into baby's eyes at some point!

I am strict on behaviour though, although youngest has ADHD so is very fidgety but would be told to stop bouncing (that's why we have a trampoline, so he and my other son with ASD, who broke 2 beds, can bounce as much as they like on it, and not the furniture)

SouperSal · 20/07/2016 17:26

Would you still breast feed at 5/6 years old genuine question

I have close friends that do. Why not?

SouperSal · 20/07/2016 17:27

I think that the mother also thinks they will catch up on their reading, writings and maths when they show interest.

Why do you think thy won't?

Idliketobeabutterfly · 20/07/2016 17:27

I don't see an issue with the breastfeeding at all.

YellowShockedFace · 20/07/2016 17:27

Yes to 00100001 comment about the hospital. Because they did go to hospital. Also they live in flat and their kid has an iPad.
They are the sort of people that would be all talk about 'off the grid parenting' but really they can't be arsed to teach their kids any control or manners they just let him on the iPad whilst they update their Yoga website Hmm

sandy30 · 20/07/2016 17:29

Hi Souper, I'd say not, but then I didn't think I'd still be feeding at 2! All our weaning attempts so far have been hellish. Even leaving the country for a week didn't work.

My point is I think I would be viewed as fairly 'crunchy', but I don't think crunchy should be confused with possible neglect

ElspethFlashman · 20/07/2016 17:36

"Off the Grid" when she's a blogger???

I'd love to have a poke around in their cupboards. I bet you anything there's a tub of Sudocrem in there.

ElspethFlashman · 20/07/2016 17:42

Just found her blog:

Off-grid parenting is a term used to describe a style of parenting which seeks to adopt a natural, self-sustainable, unconventional and intuitive approach to all aspects of child rearing. Off-grid parents usually step outside the system when it comes to their children’s medical care and education and opt for alternative health care, alternative education such as unschooling and adopt alternative child rearing praices. Off-grid parents usually arrange their work schedule to ensure they can spend maximum quality time with their children. Off-grid parents don’t vaccinate or medicate their children using artificially produced drugs and medicines but may use fasting, food, herbs and other alternative forms of medicine. Off-grid mums oftern choose to manage their pregnancy independently of a doctor and usually birth outside of the conventional hospital system. Conventional parenting practices such as baby sleep training and cry-it-out method as well as punitive discipline are shunned in favour of attachment parenting and child-led methods such as co-sleeping, on-demand, full-term breastfeeding and positive discipline. Off-grid parents do not adhere to a ‘one diet fits all’ philosophy but do seek to eat whole, natural and ethically produced foods to maintain good health

GoogleMonkey · 20/07/2016 17:48

They're fundraising for their costa rican dream too. They want £100k. So far they have £5

ElspethFlashman · 20/07/2016 17:51

OMG she believes the birth control pill is carcinogenic!

Doesn't believe in ultrasounds either!

Just saw that about the £100,000. Seriously, why should other people be funding them buying land abroad? That's some brass neck!

ProfessorBranestawm · 20/07/2016 17:51

yikes.

Gives home educators a bad name!

00100001 · 20/07/2016 17:51

Elspeth, I do love the irony of an off-grid blogger Grin

cosmicglittergirl · 20/07/2016 17:54

Did anyone else assume they meant they didn't use electricity?

If they move to Costa Rica, they can be on that Kevin McCloud programme about people living on desert islands and the like.

As I said earlier, I've no issue with extended BFing or even 'unschooling' ( despite being a primary teacher, I have an interest in the concept of home schooling). It's just the not vaccinating. I can't fathom the arrogance of it.

ElspethFlashman · 20/07/2016 17:57

cosmic it's because there's nowt on this world that can't be cured with a few dirty herbs from the common stewed in a kettle.

Did you see where she said if her kids got cancer they'd go with a natural approach still???