To wonder if this is what people mean by gentle parenting

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Not sure why a one year old wouldn't have a nappy on as she clearly is not Notts trained at that age my one year old would be become destressed to be constantly wet

And what's the no medication about surely social service would become involved if they got very ill and parents did noting

Very odd

www.xojane.com/author/adele-allen

If this is the same lady she's well known

Self promotion comes to mind

Why would anyone want to carry their precious newborn baby around with a lump of rotting flesh attached to it?

I'm feeling judgy about their stance on modern medicine. I'll agree that over-medicating people is an issue, but there are many, many circumstances where appropriate use of medication and modern medicine saves lives or prevents serious illness.

Dear God, these type of parents are just as bad as those who feed their kids McDonalds everyday and buy a 2 year old a tablet!!!

(despite my user name I am much closer to the McDonalds / Tablet end of the parenting spectrum)

The 5 year old is only just starting to recognize numbers and letters? Fuck me! And they don't wear sun screen????

I am all for a bit of crunchy parenting I am a an extended breastfeeder and still co sleep with youngest DC but this is just ludicrous.

If they do piss off to Costa Rica I feel sorry for these poor kids!!

The irony about these parents is they aren't giving their children any choice in their future, which is surely the antithesis of the parenting they think they provide

I just googled him. He's a 'holistic health coach' and a yoga teacher.

Cant get worked up about it
Personally. They're better than the types I know who live in the doctors demanding antibiotics and medicine for every cough.
Live and let live.

these parents are seriously wrong in their attitude toward illness. But other than that I'd be very wary of judging them based on a short appearance on a television show where they are just two (most likely media-unsavvy) people up against a team of people who's job it is to get the best possible story

^^agree with this really.

Aside from the illness / vaccinations stuff they aren't doing anything that awful. Yes, maybe they do like to be different or consider themselves special but that's not a terrible thing in itself.

I agree that children need boundaries, but a gentle approach based on mutual respect is my personal ideal. It's not always achievable at all and I only have one young DD atm. Might be different later, especially if I ever have more DCs. Perhaps I'm really naive!

Lotus birth is a bit icky and IMHO unnecessary, a bit like eating your own placenta! There's nothing "wrong" with it though afaik.

Being a farmer I witness a lot of births. Strangely, sheep do not have time for lotus births. In fact a lot of the ewes eat the after birth straight away.
That would be preferable to carrying a raw placenta around.

I agree that children need boundaries, but a gentle approach based on mutual respect is my personal ideal. It's not always achievable at all and I only have one young DD atm. Might be different later, especially if I ever have more DCs. Perhaps I'm really naive

but I think you may be a bit funny you don't get people with teens doing general parenting children don't have the capability to self regulate that's why they needs parents and those children who are left t ther own devices often end up in trouble or in danger

also it's well know that boundires make children feel safe child won't just do what you ask because the respect you mos people with teens know from about 12-20 they think your a shit head who dosent know anything and often your seen as a cash point ,taxi,cook and that's it the respect comes when there older

Rules are there for a good reason! Since the boy is allowed to get up whenever he likes, has never needed rules, and has not had any schooling so far, he will be held back at school.

I thought they were mad enough until I read this:
"In the park, there's a big herb patch and she likes to pick and eat the mint leaves. Already at this young age she is thinking about what she can pick from nature and eat.'"

How deluded do you need to be to think your toddler sticking things in their mouth is 'thinking about what they can pick from nature to eat'?

They sound batshit. I bet the kids end up rebelling and being accountants who live in a Barrett home in a commuter town

Rules are there for a good reason! Since the boy is allowed to get up whenever he likes, has never needed rules, and has not had any schooling so far, he will be held back at school.

w that boundires make children feel safe child won't just do what you ask because the respect you

I agree with you! That's why I said "children need boundaries" in my original post.

sparechange - my toddler does that in my garden! I don't think it's cute or nature savvy. It's bloody annoying as he always tries to destroy my herbs. The real trouble is that he thinks other things are edible when they're not so I have to watch him so very closely.
I wonder what they'd do if their toddler decided that foxglove leaves looked tasty. Guess you'd need some real medicine in that circumstance!
I think they'll end up estate agents or teachers! That'd annoy the parents no end, given their opinion on schooling!
I have no time for anti vaxxers either.

My worry that they would intervene if there child was a little ill

It amazing how somthing like a infection can become lifethreatning if not treated

Would not I mean

Yes definitely OP, the medical stuff (or lack thereof) is really quite concerning.

They want to go live in Costa Rica. I suppose they won't go for any routine jabs, Hep A/B or Typhoid (or malaria) prevention. Could be :(.

We're GPs and its deffo not what this article is leading to!

We're very "crunchy" but don't withhold medication etc

Our version of GP (as there are extreme versions!) is like PP said. No smacking, naughty step etc. Trying to patent in a peaceful way with peaceful consequences

But we're all human and sometimes we get it wrong

They can parent however they want in all other respects, but their approach to medicine is dangerous.

Tbh I think it feeds into a grater lack of understanding about children in general

And if there judgment is so off in this respect it's very concerning they seem educated

So then it's wilful

I would imagine they go yo the doctors I could be wrong but I very much doubt she had NO medical checkups during her pregnancy

And if she didn't then 😕 I know for a fact that not getting pre natel care would raise concerns about any child

And can someone tell me what exactly crunchy means

'Crunchy' means hippy. Believes in woo, is environmental and a bit 'knit your own vegan yogurt', follows conspiracy theories about modern medicine so prefers 'alternative' therapies...

I did not see the interview but I feel rather sorry for this family. I of course question the medical side and am inclined to believe they have been very fortunate in their good health up to now (no birth complications or serious illnesses).

They are clearly not very media savvy and were likely all out of their comfort zones. In my experience nappies do leak.

I'm not 'up' on parenting genres but I guess we too are gentle parents (would never smack or leave to cry etc), however wouldn't describe ourselves as crunchy or alternative etc. I think there is room in the parenting world for differing approaches.

Not really that's why we have social services

Some approaches there is no room for

And not getting medical atteion for your child is one I don't think any one cares weather they think it's right or wrong much but it's most likely why they home school

Opt he same reason why working class parents who are badly parenting there children avoid athorites so not to be challenged on there batshit ideas on parenting

I was a bit shocked when reading the article and felt judgy. But I am sure lots of people might disagree with my parenting (we have a time-out mat for example) so maybe live and let live is needed.
One thing I can't get my head around though is their lack of medical care and sun cream. What if the children get seriously ill? Wouldn't they feel guilty if the children got a disease which was easily preventable had they had the vaccine?