To wonder if this is what people mean by gentle parenting

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Not sure why a one year old wouldn't have a nappy on as she clearly is not Notts trained at that age my one year old would be become destressed to be constantly wet

And what's the no medication about surely social service would become involved if they got very ill and parents did noting

Very odd

Oh ok.

They saw a doctor re their son's asthma. They've chosen stupidly but within their rights not to vaccinate. They've chosen not to send their children to school.

Their choices may not be "mainstream" but that doesn't mean they're neglecting/abusing their children.

How the fuck can she do elimination communication? She'd have to watch her child at all times. She's got a social media empire to rule!

Totally agree with Mycat and pleasemother. I had horrendous depression, bordering on psychosis, when I was pregnant with DS1 and didn't get any help until just before he was born. I had some very dark thoughts about him and, for a large part of the pregnancy, thought I'd made a huge mistake and ruined my life.When he didn't move for a couple of hours, I would pray that he'd died. I got treatment and got better but I was left with this awful guilt about the thoughts that I'd had and this terrible fear that he'd sensed what I was thinking when he was in the womb.
As a result, I simply couldn't bear to hear him cry. Obviously, toddlers cry when they don't get what they want, it doesn't mean they're traumatised, they're just cross but I just couldn't stand it and just gave in and let him do/have whatever he wanted even if that was eating a giant pack of Haribos or going to bed at midnight.
His behaviour was awful and he really wasn't happy.
My lovely HV gently spoke to me about boundaries and how they actually made children feel safer.
When I started putting boundaries in place, he fought against them and his behaviour got even worse but, very quickly, he was like a different child and much happier.
Children might think they want to be in charge but I think it actually makes them feel frightened and uncontained.

They are not 'gentle parents'. If they are they are the extreme end and do not represent those who identify with so called 'GP' ways.

Gentle parenting is not permissive parenting and DOES give children boundaries and it certainly DOES use discipline, just not by ways of punishment. There is such a thing as positive discipline.

These parents are doing something completely on their own, really. Good luck to them but I wish it wasn't being lumped in with other gentle parenting practices because they are totally different.

Will never agree with the non vacc/no doctor thing though.

Yellowgladys

I don't shame breastfeeding. I breastfed both of my children until age 18 months. I breastfed publicly (though discretely). My babies self-weaned, though occasionally I would suckle them for comfort if they were unwell until they were about three (son took a little longer than daughter to completely give up).

However, I think that older children being breast-fed (and surely she only still has milk because of her younger child) is only necessary in countries where there is no clean water and the risk of infection is great. If you want to BF your child until he is 60 - go ahead - just don't whip your t*ts out in front of me because that's something I DON'T want to be confronted with.

She has every right to feed him, but other people have every right not t have to see it. And don't say "Don't look" because sometimes some people are TOO obvious.

Would they not be classed as radical unschoolers?

To me they are two parents that just can't be arsed to parent.

I see they was in the papers again today they've set up a page on a giving site asking for donations they want to raise £100,000 to be self sufficient and move to Costa Rica. Yes because people are going to donate to that

Yes, radical unschoolers. I don't know many unschoolers who aren't radical by definition, as it permeates throughout the rest of their lifestyle. It would be hard to respect and trust their autonomy in education but not bedtimes etc.

2kids, you realise that is your issue and not hers? She will be making milk as ing as one or other is feeding, age isn't really to do with it, and the act of feeding is the same regardless of age. You can't be pro-BF but with caveats...it just doesn't work.

I last fed mine in public at around 3.5yrs, no-one batted an eyelid. I have a 5 year old now, feeding her wouldn't feel weird and certainly wouldn't be incestuous.

She's blocked her fb now......after a mix up with domain names. So after courting publicity she has now blocked everyone who called her on it.pluscalled them haters #batshit!

Bit late there pink.

I don't even have the confidence to go for a home birth (not that I'm pregnant... just broody...) - two bog standard hospital births for me. I asked about delayed cord clamping with my second but they said it could be dangerous.

I was when I read one of her comments about not wanting big plastic toys - absolutely fair enough - when the video of them in their garden had the big red and yellow car, I think a play house, slide etc... all plastic :o

They must know at this point it has backfired magnificently, they have managed to piss off a whole load of people tomake 47 quid a fiver of Tha she donated herself! The comments on there just giving page are gold.
I noticed the plastic toys and no produce in the garden aswell

I was astounded to see they had actually raised more than her fiver :o

Wouldn't call it gentle parenting, perhaps hands-free. Saw this family on TV and the no vaccinations/baby should be free to walk barefoot in the street on glass 'to feel' the world beneath her made me extremely uncomfortable! Don't vaccines protect against stuff like infections from cuts from glass and dirt getting in! Feel very sorry for the kids.

the big red and yellow car Yes. It brings back happy memories but then I wasn't against plastic.

Cosy coupe

my boys had such fun in that car. We definitely weren't crunchy.

I really want channel 4/5/Sky/BBC to take them up on their offer and film their move to Costa Rica. I can’t wait to see how they cope. Yoga may be strenuous but it’s nowhere near as strenuous as farming without modern machinery. It’s also very dangerous.

My only experience of this type of parenting was a kids party my kids attended, the parents who threw the party were a couple of trust fund kids who had spawned, never worked a day in their lives and were so far from reality it was shocking. The food was all vegan(no problem with that) but was also mostly inedible. It’s a kids party, do vegans not do biscuits? Can you make vegan cakes? It was vegan crudite and finger foods that even with my "buffet hoover” mentality I couldn’t eat.

I am raising my kids eating Greggs pasties, wearing Tesco nappies, playing with plastic toys and wearing shoes.
I will add the link to my charity page later. I am saving to get my newborns ears pierced.

As such a 'permissive' parent, I'd be fascinated to see the reeaction when Ulysses first asks for a happy meal/nerf gun/blue ice lolly.

Then again, they've probably indoctrinated them into believing such things are evil and poisonous.

Apparently, because I asked questions, I am one of the haters! And I have been blocked! Have never been called that before (am SAH, cloth nappy, co sleeping, babywearing, home baking, barefoot (in our own garden but never in public streets) autism mum of four littlies. Not what I would consider crunchy, but some might).

I was genuinely interested in their approach, in an attempt to understand (because I disagreed with them so much!) and I thought some interesting discussions could have been a result, but now, they can buzz right off! Apparently she is unwilling to engage in educating haters (by answering their questions) because her time is too precious! (Thank god noone treat me like that when DS was first diagnosed. I must have asked some eyebrow raising questions, but, hey, I wasn't born knowing it all...)

I try not to judge, but she did rattle me when she said on their video that letting a child cry it out was tantamount to child neglect and abuse. (Which is how I felt about her wearing shoes whilst she made her kids go barefoot!)

Have they taken down their funding page?

My almost-6 year old has no idea what a happy meal or nerf gun are and would be deeply suspicious of a blue ice lolly.

Do you think she would block me if I offered to babysit for her kids?