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Inlaws coming over every summer

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Ilikelegos · 15/07/2016 11:33

Dear all , I need you advice . My inlaws live in another country and they come over every summer for 6 weeks . During this time they stay with us , I am responsible for the entire cooking which involves elaborate dishes , cleaning , dishwashing and helping them buy gifts and entertaining . My husband does groceries and takes them to places where they want to visit so I hardly see him before 11 every night. Plus he works 1-2 months overtime before they come and 1-2 months after they leave to finance the entire visit . He takes majority of his vacation time during the visit and we go on our big family vacation during this time with them . We are unable to afford any other major trips after that .
I am getting fed up with this . AIBU? If I bring it up my husband he feels his parents are not welcome . My point is they can come and stay as long but can't they do it in spring / Autumn . And I deserve my vacation without them ? What would you all do in my place ? How would you bring the subject to a husband who feels guilty that he is living far from his parents ?

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Aeroflotgirl · 15/07/2016 15:13

Wow they would be going in a hotel with in laws like this. I have a dh from Italy, and his parents come for a month each Spring, but they are quite easy going and eat anything. Beggars can't be choosers. Even then it is hard, as you have them around, you have to constantly be on your hostess mode.

Ilovetea82 · 15/07/2016 15:15

Perhaps leave the elaborate meals for one or two evenings a week - unless they want to prepare them for you all :)

Aerfen · 15/07/2016 15:19

Ilikelegos
Hazelbite , one of the other issues is I don't trust my FIL around my kids . It's not because of creepy reasons . But it's because how he continuously belittles me I front of my children . If I say no tv , he will put on tv . If I say no drinks , he will introduce coke/ Sprite to them . If I leave the kids with them , he will say to my kids that see your mum doesn't care about you and she left you with us to party .

Or you think there's is reasonable behaviour for ILs in regards to demands / belittling and criticising DIL ?I don't know, Are PIL generally critical with everyone ?

This really goes well beyond any cultural difference and moves him at least (maybe not MIL) into the realm of plain nasty.

I think your husband really needs to 'man up' and have a quiet word with his father and tell him that if there is anymore undermining of your authority then he will not be welcome in your house. It really is beyond the pale!

This needs to be part of a Big Conversation with your DH.

I am beginning to suspect that your PILS are really not happy about his marriage to you, probably wanted him to marry someone from their own ethno-religious background, and maybe are even deliberately trying to throw a spanner in the works of your marriage (in the context of all the other criticism too). Poor DH, he could be confronted with a terrible choice, but you should not as a modern Western woman have to put up with this DIL abuse!

Aeroflotgirl · 15/07/2016 15:30

Wow reading further you are being abused by them, I would put an ultimatum to your dh, you cannot do this anymore, you are not a slave. Don't plan your life round them, they don't appreciate it, or thank you. Its up to your dh to sort them out, if he cannot, he should not have them over.

fuzzywuzzy · 15/07/2016 15:34

Can you not go on holiday to visit your family whilst your IL's are around? Your husband wants them around so much he can take care of them

Ilikelegos · 15/07/2016 16:11

Finsa, if you don't mind me asking how long did it take for your husband to stand up for you ? We might be related , do you live in America by any chance ?;)
Aerfen and Aeroflot girl , my FIL is nasty to every one . You should see him deal with his own sisters who have learning difficulties . It makes my blood boil . He treats everyone the same with sarcasm and constant criticism and humour that makes fun of others .
Fuzzywuzzy , I would love to fly to my parents but the whole issue is my kids . I want my parents to see them as well and no chance that inlaws will not create a drama if I take my kids away during their visit . If I make plans for two days straight during their visit that involves me and my kids , it leads to drama about how I don't want them to get close to my children .

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Woodhill · 15/07/2016 16:24

Could you go to Costco or is it not near you.

It must be very tough for you. It seems strange that they won't pay their way if they want expensive food but obviously this is cultural

diddl · 15/07/2016 16:28

", it leads to drama about how I don't want them to get close to my children."

Why would you want them to though, they sound awful!

Does your husband take the whole 6wks off & go out with them nearly every day?

With the kids as well?

SouthWindsWesterly · 15/07/2016 16:35

Fuck em. Go away with your kids. Book it early (as in now) for summer 2017. You've already said that nothing you do is good enough for them. So book the time away with your folks and kids next year.

Schedule the hell out of this summer so that if they want to go to the Mall which Jo doubt the children will find boring as hell unless they're treated to toys, then schedule meeting with school friends etc. And I'd put a stop to paying out extra for them. Do they expect their money back for the help they have with the house? as they're certainly getting their money's worth now. Add it up - how much would they have spent on hotels/rented holiday home plus food had they not stayed with you. I bet it's a real eye opener!

Oh - and take out meat etc to defrost the night before in the oven so they can't see it.

Ilikelegos · 15/07/2016 16:38

Diddl, he takes around 15-17 days off as he has 30 paid leaves . He takes a few each time to visit His country which he does twice a year. The other days they wait for him to come and he takes them after work . He gets extremely exhausted as well when they come .
They want to play their entire morning with kids which means I can't take them anywhere during that time . Then in evening with my husband . If they are going sightseeing or visiting family , they take kids . Not to shops which is where they spend most evenings

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Ilikelegos · 15/07/2016 16:40

Southwinds, they don't want their money back . As they gave money towards SIL down payment as well and were very insistent that we take it as well as they wanted to be fair .

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Ilikelegos · 15/07/2016 16:42

Plus they control us in other ways like how we decorate our house, the ones we rented before they had never ending suggestions . And my FIL kind of takes over the entire house in those 6 weeks . He makes one table his shaving corner , one his reading corner , so on . So the entire house is full of clutter that apparently I should dust every other day 😁

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Chocolatefudgecake100 · 15/07/2016 16:47

Absolutely not being unreasonable i cant believe id be put on like that your clearly a much nicer woman than me haha idve told husband the situation long ago

Finsa · 15/07/2016 17:05

OP, when we first got married ( very much against PIL wishes) DH saw my side of things but didn't want to rock the boat as he felt that his parents had already had to put up with his marrying me when culturally they would normally get some sort of say on the matter. So he used to try to sort of joke around the issue but not exactly address it. This didn't work unsurprisinglyand we finally moved countries to have our own life.
They still manage to be very critical and demanding, but the distance helps. Also, once the DC were born, I managed to convince him that we need to set our boundaries strongly. He's managed to do this although it makes him uncomfortable and the PIL have had some sulky episodes, but for the most part have taken it well. We still have ups and downs but at least everyone's being honest now and not just polite ( on mine and DHs side)

diddl · 15/07/2016 17:09

" and were very insistent that we take it as well as they wanted to be fair ."

I bet!

My goodness they sound tedious, rude & overbearing.

When my Dad used to stay he would have my daughter's room & she'd be in ours on a campbed.

He used to call her room "his" room & that used to piss me off-but really it was nothing compared to what you're going through.

They really don't respect you or imo ypur husband at all.

You could both make no effort at all & they wouldn't think any less of you!

Pendu · 15/07/2016 17:13

Ah in laws Grin mine are coming first time in October so will see how it goes - they haven't been to England yet so will have to get used to me in western clothes and my last minute housework. My advice is relax - bulk cook and let them moan. Doesn't MIL help?

semideponent · 15/07/2016 17:26

"They are sweeter but much more controlling in a very subtle way ."

OP, it sounds as though they are taking advantage of a very family-oriented culture - perhaps without realising it - and pushing you and your dh to the limit. This model of hospitality can only work when the surrounding culture supports it - it certainly doesn't any longer in this country. I don't know what the answer is, but I suspect you will have more luck getting your dh to change his behaviour and expectations than your PILs, and even then it will be difficult.

confuugled1 · 15/07/2016 17:30

You're an angel putting up with all that - I'd have cracked after 6 days. The first time. Not 6 weeks every year for years on end!

Have you ever talked to your dh and said has he ever stopped to consider what would happen if your parents expected to see you, him and the dc every summer for 6 weeks too - what would happen then, what would his parents do? If you weren't paying so much out for them to stay with you all that time, would you be able to visit your parents or have them to visit for longer?

What would happen if they were yapping at you and one day you just lost it and shouted back at them and told them what you really felt?

What would happen if you told them that they would have a much better relationship with the dc if they came over twice a year for 2 weeks each time so that you didn't have to bear such a long stretch with them? I know that 2x2 doesn't add up to the 6 weeks they usually have but that gives you negotiation room to have them 2x3 or 3x2 - you don't want them turning it into 2x4 weeks!

Does you mil cook or is it something she has people to do for her at home? Could you get your dh to ask her to cook his favourite meal to remind him of when he was young at least once a week - and then it would be one less meal that you need to cook.

Have you tried playing PIL bingo - stick every annoying thing they do on a card and cross them off as they happen. When you get a line / certain number, you get yourself a reward (whether this is a box of chocolates, large glass of wine, nice soaky bath or a night away from the PIL an expensive handbag is up to you Grin) But it can help, not least as it turns it into a game so you don't take their words and actions as seriously.

What would happen if you started to talk down to your pil and treat them like naughty toddlers? So if they say something nasty, give them a look and give them the classic 'Did you realise that was a mean thing to say' line. Or if they don't want to eat food from the freezer or microwave or aldi or whatever - tell them to stop being so ridiculous, to grow up and that they are guests in your house, they are old enough to know to respect their hosts and this is the way that things are done here. If they don't like it, they can go back home. But if they want to be over here for so long then they need to accept that things will be done the way they are done over here and basically they can like it or lump it.

Counselling with your DH to get him to explore the different cultural expectations you both have sounds an excellent idea, not least to help him see what his own family is missing out on in terms of money and time and other experiences (ie by spending all available summer holiday with them it means they never get a summer holiday with your parents which isn't fair). And then get him to think about if this is a good thing to be showing as an example to your dc, that (especially if you have girls as it seems you are the one missing out at the moment) would he expect them to spend all their time with their PIL and not see you...

I'd also say that you're saying in advance that next year, as you've spent 9 years hosting them every summer, it's your parent's turn and that you are going to spend the summer with your parents. Doesn't matter if you are going to or not. Probably best to warn your parents in advance about this, sounds like they are nice and will be understanding! But something massive that will put a spanner in the works of their plans next year - and it will be very difficult for them to argue against it because if they turn around and say it's their right, then you can just say that no, it's not. That you have rights too. That your marriage is between two cultures (or three if your parents live somewhere completely different) so you're not going to just stick to just one, you're giving your children the blessing of understanding all their cultures. And that if the pil try to be really tricky, say that you can go back to having every other summer once you have had a chance to even up to get the same number of summers as they have done - so they won't get anything for 9 summers. I'm guessing you wouldn't be able to get dh to agree to seeing your parents for 9 summers - but it's worth talking about it in order to him and your pil see exactly what they are demanding from you. And it also makes one summer off from them sound a whole lot more reasonable!

Good luck - I think you'll need it!

Wolpertinger · 15/07/2016 17:37

OP, how old are your children now? Have you asked your DH what her is going to do when the children have never had a family holiday because all summer every summer his parents are visiting. What is going to happen when they are teenagers?

Or as confuugled1 says, if your parents wanted to visit in the summer?

They are beyond 'everyone has problems with their PILS' or 'cultural differences' and well into the category of plain old-fashioned bullies.

You can do small things - serving them freezer food, no more berries, no more funding M+S food, but a big conversation with your DH is required. Make it clear you have no problem at all with them visiting otherwise he will not listen but I think you are some sort of living saint to have put up with it for so long but the unfairness of every single summer and wiping out the family budget has to go.

PersianCatLady · 15/07/2016 17:49

How many years has this been going on for?

Sorry if I have missed your answer but I can't seem to see anything about it and I would like to know how long you have been putting up with these visits.

Fomalhaut · 15/07/2016 18:04

You need to book up next summer now. Summer trips/camps for the kids. Trip to your parents. Anything.

Ilikelegos · 15/07/2016 18:10

Persiancatlady , it has been going on for 9 years . Five years we lived close to them which was way worse , imagine 24 days out of the month booked with them till 10-11 at night . We moved four years back and has been happening every summer

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Whiteplate1 · 15/07/2016 18:14

Nothing is going to change until your DH changes and that is unlikely given the cultural obligations upon him

Ilikelegos · 15/07/2016 18:23

Configuuled . I love love your idea of PIL bingo :) will definitely do this summer to keep myself sane .

MIL doesn't cook back in her country and has somebody cooking for her . There aren't many dishes that my husband remembers from his childhood . Her cooking means me chopping and cleaning the entire kitchen after her . She isn't in much practice so the mess is A lot :)

My husband holds parents to a whole new level. He treats my parents the same . He sends my parents expensive gifts ( send my mum an iPhone 6+ ) when I went to visit her during Christmas break .

My Inlaws place is closer to my parents place ( shorter flight ) as compared to UK so when I go visit my parents , MIL comes there as well. Doesn't live at my parents but expects me to meet her there and spend 3-4 days with her there as well.

I like the idea of going to my parents and spending the summer , but I expect my Inlaws will reach to me there as well . Put an additional burden on my parents to entertain and invite them . Ask me to visit them as flight distance is shorter and then come with me on the way back . But it's worth a try , will definitely try it out for next year and see what happens . Though I might get only 3 weeks off at most but still :)

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Ilikelegos · 15/07/2016 18:23

Counselling I will look seriously into and book sessions starting from September that is when they leave .

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