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I want people to tell me why they voted #leave

999 replies

AliceScarlett · 24/06/2016 05:12

I'm feeling pretty shocked and scared right now.

Why did you vote for brexit?

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SquidgeyMidgey · 24/06/2016 15:02

I actually want the country to go down the toilet now just so you all get exactly what you so richly deserve.
Wow, thanks. As if a massive decision I don't support isn't enough to deal with. Cheers.

Choceeclair123 · 24/06/2016 15:05

There's a lot of swearing on this thread.

ManonLescaut · 24/06/2016 15:07

I originally posted to give my reasons and that's what they are, I don't feel I need to justify them further

You can't justify them further in truth as they have no substance. Your views as summarised here are based on staggering political and economic naivety. You will learn this the hard way.

ofshoes · 24/06/2016 15:07

Fingers crossed for a Mad Max style apocalypse, should be good for a laugh eh?

Marynary · 24/06/2016 15:07

I actually want the country to go down the toilet now just so you all get exactly what you so richly deserve.

God that is so horrible. I think that the majority of those who voted remain would love to proven wrong and to be convinced by the "leave" voters on here. I know I would.

Yabbadabbo2 · 24/06/2016 15:07

I voted leave as believe we are better out. Free to strike our own trade deals that suit out need's not 27 other nations as well. Free to take back about 9 billion pounds of money we send to the EU to spend on our priorities. I voted leave to have a better system of immigration so that entry level jobs are there for the younger generation to forge their own path. The EU is broken and not prepared to reform to function as for for purpose and being in the EU does not give prosperity just ask Greece, Spain and Italy. People are being ignorant of peoples choices and all I see is people being called "racist" and "stupid" for having made having excercised their democratic choice and the winner was democracy with a good turnout and amount of votes

Grassgreendashhabi · 24/06/2016 15:08

Sparrow - EU means 35% of decisions made by UK.

Non EU means 100% decisions

Not people in Brussels that we never elected!

StillDrSethHazlittMD · 24/06/2016 15:09

time4choc You don't need to justify your reasons. Thank you for saying what they are (unlike so many others). Unfortunately, at least one of our reasons is incorrect. Auditors have signed off on the EU accounts every year since 2007.

Oh, and over half the country did not vote leave as you stated. Over half of those who voted, voted leave. A quarter of the electorate didn't fucking vote.

Kimononono · 24/06/2016 15:11

By voting to leave the EU we've basically said to Europe, 'Go ahead and do whatever you like to us, we're giving up our right to influence anything you do

No it doesn't. People need to stop getting hysterical.

time4chocolate · 24/06/2016 15:11

Sparrow - I don't have a crystal ball but neither do you and I refer you back to my OP Point 5. Nasty behaviour from remain (a bit like the debate with the Angry Birds v Boris Johnson, don't think that did you any favours.

CantAffordtoLive · 24/06/2016 15:13

Smallfox I lived in Kent for over 25 years, am now in the NE and would say that the SE are more, I don't want to say racist, more against immigration than people up here.

In the town I worked in the mainly Asian population were dead against immigration from other cultures, they considered it to be 'their' town.

I voted leave for many reasons but mostly because I was uneasy about us losing so much of our power to the EU, which is not what we signed up to.

Kennington · 24/06/2016 15:14

I voted remain, but we need to get some perspective here: we are not at war and we live in a democracy still.
This isn't armageddon.
If house prices drop to an affordable level I think something good will have come out of this!
It isn't great this this has happened but shouting down others isn't going to help now.

GhostofFrankGrimes · 24/06/2016 15:14

more pie in the sky from Brexiters "we can do this, we can do that". Do what? We are leaving the biggest trading bloc in the world with no alternative plan. Madness.

IndridCold · 24/06/2016 15:14

A vote to remain was not a vote for the status quo. From the time they appointed Jean Claude Juncker as EU President it became clear that the direction of travel in the EU was for full integration. I did not want to be in the United States of Europe, for the UK to join the Euro, and to hand over all sovereignty to Brussels.

On the other hand, being in Europe but not being in the full Eurozone is a nonsense, we would have had no power or influence, no matter what assurances they gave us.

When it came down to it the person whose opinion I most trusted was Gisela Stuart, someone who had been involved in the EU machine at the very highest level, an experience which convinced her that the EU would NEVER reform itself. Voting to stay in on the grounds that we would be able to change it was just a mad delusion.

Look at how many times over the years the EU has deceived us and reneged on its assurances. They shafted Thatcher over the Single European Act, they shafted Major over Maastricht, they shafted Blair over the EU Constitution/Lisbon fiasco.

When the EU President was appointed Cameron went to Europe and begged Merkel not to back someone who was too integrationist, and she gave him the most earnest assurances that she was on his side, and he was not to worry. Then they chose Juncker the arch-federalist! What a slap in the face.

The last straw was the re-negotiation. Cameron went to them for some concessions, to take back to the UK and present to the electorate. They gave him vitually nothing, and before he even landed back at Heathrow, Tusk was announcing that it was all hot air anyway, and that to be activated it needed the agreement of all members, which would never happen. They treated Cameron, and by extension us, with contempt.

The Euro crisis has still not been resolved, and can blow up at any time. There is also widespread discontent with an increasingly undemocratic Eurocracy across several other countries in Europe, the UK is by no means the only naughty child in the nursery.

Am I jubilant at Brexit? No, not really. In many ways I think it might have been better to have waited another 5-10 years when the whole thing collapses anyway, and that way we would not have been blamed for bringing the whole thing down. But Cameron insisted on having a referendum, and here we are.

I think we are in for a bumpy time during the next few years, but we have survived worse, and it would be a mistake to assume that it would all be plain sailing if we stayed in either.

It will be interesting to see what happens in France next year at the presidential election!

StillDrSethHazlittMD · 24/06/2016 15:22

A Channel 4 correspondent in Barnsley, Yorkshire, where 68% voted to leave, has been interrupted by people shouting “send them home”. Three different people in five minutes, so Ciaran Jenkins, the reporter, tweeted. So, we know what their reasons for voting Leave were: racism.

Yabbadabbo2 · 24/06/2016 15:27

Three different people in five minutes
Now they just need the other 17,410,739 to chant it?

thebestfurchinchilla · 24/06/2016 15:30

Mumsnet where are your talk guidelines now? it's ok for leave voters to be branded racist xenophobes is it?

StillDrSethHazlittMD · 24/06/2016 15:34

Yabba I am not saying every Leave voter is racist. I don't believe that for a moment. But clearly, as that incident just reported shows, for SOME people it absolutely was the reason behind their vote, which is what the OP asked for.

thebestfurchinchilla · 24/06/2016 15:35

Yesterday you shut down a thread because someone questioned Polish womens' dress sense(rude but was one person's opinion) Today half the population are being called racist xenophobes by many on this and other threads.......but apparently that's ok Hmm

Helmetbymidnight · 24/06/2016 15:39

My school mum friend was just shouted at: 'We'll get you lot out next'.

This is what we feared.

peachpudding · 24/06/2016 15:40

Mumsnet is all over the place when it comes to censorship, they have an agenda and its not equality. Somewhere it will have something to do with money.

TulipsInAJug · 24/06/2016 15:41

Wow, the Remainers on this thread are frighteningly hysterical and outrageously rude.

I repeat, I voted Leave for well-considered, well-researched and long-sighted reasons.

I resent being called stupid, racist, naïve etc. It shows the paucity of their arguments that Remainers are resorting to this childish name-calling and finger-pointing.

I'm so glad we have a chance to shape our own future without being dictated to by Brussels. We got out just in time.

TulipsInAJug · 24/06/2016 15:45

When it came down to it the person whose opinion I most trusted was Gisela Stuart, someone who had been involved in the EU machine at the very highest level, an experience which convinced her that the EU would NEVER reform itself. Voting to stay in on the grounds that we would be able to change it was just a mad delusion.

Agree. I found her the most impressive in the EU debate as well.

StillDrSethHazlittMD · 24/06/2016 15:45

Tulips That's fine. You resent being called something by implication (as no one has actually said YOU are those things). Similarly, I can resent you calling me frighteningly hysterical and outrageously rude.

Free speech. Goes along with democracy. We may go along with the democratic decision but it doesn't mean we have to sit here and shut up about being pissed off that SOME Brexiters voted without any grasp of the issues and have PROVED to be stupid, racist, naive or all three

thebestfurchinchilla · 24/06/2016 15:47

Absolutely Tulips me too! No racist agenda here either just a love of democracy. I want to vote my government in or out if they don't serve the country well. No chance of that with EU.