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I want people to tell me why they voted #leave

999 replies

AliceScarlett · 24/06/2016 05:12

I'm feeling pretty shocked and scared right now.

Why did you vote for brexit?

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ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 24/06/2016 12:58

Frisky
Ignoring the protest element of your vote. I can respect a decision to leave based on rationale economic concerns whether or not I agree with them.
What concerns me, is that some people have been sold a story that being out of the EU will solve their problems when they won't. Economic inequalities in this country are homegrown not a product of the EU.

FrancineSmith · 24/06/2016 12:59

I voted leave. Unfortunately many have voted to leave because of racism and ignorance, but at the same time many educated people have kept quiet about their 'out' vote for fear of being tarred with the same brush as Farage's fan club.

I am not racist and my vote had absolutely nothing to do with immigration.

I voted to leave because I believe the most important factor in the way our country is run is democracy, and the EU takes that away from us.

Helmetbymidnight · 24/06/2016 13:00

I was intending to vote Remain up until 7pm yesterday, but the vitriol and accusations of Leavers only being racist, uneducated, stupid and having no valid arguments (inc. comments on here) incensed me so much that I went straight out and voted for Leave.
I am surprised that Leave won though and I'm not sure how I feel about it.

Uh huh. Smart-thinking.

OP, shariamum has form for being the devil's advocate/controversial posts.

mathanxiety · 24/06/2016 13:01

It doesn't feel right shackling ourselves to a low growth zone when there are many more trading partners out there.

Name them.

Then explain how open they are to trading with Britain and how soon agreements will be in place to enable this.

chajazam · 24/06/2016 13:03

Well done to those who voted leave as a protest vote. Clever! When the 800k jobs in the auto industry (representing 12% of our exports) are gone - give yourselves a pat on the back.

This has highlighted to me that London and the rest of England are two different countries with a different value system. If there is ever a vote for London to leave the rest of the U.K. I will be the very first in line- I have nothing in common with these people.

BolshierAryaStark · 24/06/2016 13:03

I'm a remain & am deeply saddened to see that we are a country completely divided.
I do think a lot of the leave voters have done so without actually knowing what this means unfortunately.

blinkowl · 24/06/2016 13:07

"More cuts being threatened whilst we pump millions into the eu not to get it all back.
You can see how a vote to leave would look attractive"

Yes but still fucking idiotic.

Giving all that money to Europe came with the bonus of keeping us prosperous.

We may not be giving that money to the EU anymore, but our economy is tanking. We stand to lose so much more.

BettyDraper1 · 24/06/2016 13:08

CBA to go back and find the quote but somebody earlier on here said that 'working class people will not be told that immigrants are not the source of all of their problems'. I live in a rural middle class area but I've seen directly that the farm-hand jobs are largely going to Eastern European workers. Thank god this doesn't affect me but this is a tangible change in our community and I see it. No idea whether it's because you can pay Eastern Europeans as little as possible or what. But I do know that locals who have been in this area for donkeys cannot get jobs game-keeping, tending to grounds, being a farm hand etc. That way of life is over for them. So please don't patronize them and suggest that the 'forriner' is their imaginary bogeyman. It is 100% real for them and the Labour Party has let each and every one of them down by dismissing their real life problems. And every time I think about this, I think about Gordon Brown's infamous 'bigot' quote and it makes me furious. Because this, today, is the fruits of Labour's inaction. And this will affect us all.

EUcantbelieveit2016 · 24/06/2016 13:10

I was always undecided as I can see both sides and it's very difficult to vote for a completely unknown choice (ie. Leave). Since I found out Leave had won (at abt 6am), I've been watching the coverage and thinking about my choice. I'm actually kinda excited, if a little apprehensive, that I followed my heart, rather than my head, and I'm glad I did (even though it was a strange way of deciding in the end).

I've never liked the red tape and bureaucracy of the EU and often thought it should've only been a trade deal, rather than all the other stuff.

I do think we should have immigration controls similar to Australia, and I think it's unfair that EU migrants are given 'preference' over other migrants.
I think migrants that have the skills we need are the ones that should be given preference, and that it shouldn't matter where they come from. My DH is from Western Europe, so I'm by no means xenophobic, but I do feel migration can't continue as it has been.

I think DC should've stayed on to see Brexit through to the very end, as I think he's been good at his job and he started this process, so should see it through to the end. I think his decision to resign was partly due to his bruised ego at losing, and I think it's wrong because the country will be in enough turmoil as it is without this.

aquamarine2 · 24/06/2016 13:11

Would you be asking this question if the result had gone the other way?

One person, one vote. No need for anyone to justify their decision.

Helmetbymidnight · 24/06/2016 13:11

I do think a lot of the leave voters have done so without actually knowing what this means unfortunately.

I think so too.

Hopefully, things aren't going to go as bad as some of us fear. Sad What is clear to me though is that the poor, the uneducated and the young will be the first to suffer.

JudyCoolibar · 24/06/2016 13:12

When the polls closed we were the 5th biggest economy in the world.

Already, we're down to 6th.

Ambroxide · 24/06/2016 13:16

WHY THE FUCK did you not vote in protest at our last national General Election?

This, a thousand times this.

Gowgirl · 24/06/2016 13:17

My area feels like its in mourning.
I hung up on my mum this morning because she was crowing and talking shit. My fb feed is full of racist comments from people I thought I knew.

WeDoNotSow · 24/06/2016 13:18

Chajazam Why has this highlighted you have nothing in common with London?London voted to remain! Confused

FriskyFrog · 24/06/2016 13:19

Name them. Then explain how open they are to trading with Britain and how soon agreements will be in place to enable this.

Don't be silly Math. A trading partner can be almost any country. The answers to the rest of your question are complex and your challenge to me seems merely for the sake of argument.

I am not saying we need to substitute our EU markets, I am merely saying the EU is not the only one.

SuperFlyHigh · 24/06/2016 13:20

I didn't vote as I wasn't sure either way and I didn't feel I had enough information to persuade me either way. I also felt this was 'rushed through'.

If I had voted and maybe voted Leave it would be for numerous reasons but because I don't trust Cameron, Turkey joining the EU, immigration never being tackled in UK (last election time etc).

I truly think the British people were or are sick and tired of not being listened to and that it was a protest vote.

Still we had to be careful, I thought the Remain would stay, to be honest I thought that was best because then down the line if we'd wanted to leave then at least we would have that option too.

midnightlurker · 24/06/2016 13:20

I voted remain, but where I live it is hard to ignore the EU open borders issue. There has been vast immigration of many lovely people, to the point where it actually surprises me if I speak to someone in a shop/cinema/at a delivery point and they speak clear, natural English. Most of my neighbours come from Eastern Europe, and the new part-buy part-rent housing development down the road is largely populated by Eastern Europeans. Our council is re-zoning green belt land for housing at quite a rate and the town has changed massively since I moved here eight years ago. We can no longer afford to buy a house, and will need to move further north, away from family and friends.

Now I grew up abroad, have friends from all nationalities and cultures - I couldn't be further from racist. Yet I can understand the older people who are upset at seeing things change so much, at all the green land being built on, at their town changing from a quiet place to a bustling multicultural hub of activity. In the new world, what is Britain? A place with a lovely climate, surrounded by sea, where it rains a lot and people from all over the world coexist. I have lived in capital cities with similar numbers of languages spoken! They see their customs and culture change, and it frightens them. So they voted. And here we are. A scary new future. Let's hope it is Ok!

FoggyBottom · 24/06/2016 13:22

Well done to those who voted leave as a protest vote. Clever! When the 800k jobs in the auto industry (representing 12% of our exports) are gone - give yourselves a pat on the back

I keep asking those who say they voted Leave as a protest vote, why they didn't do that in large numbers at the last General Election.

And answer came there none.

JudyCoolibar · 24/06/2016 13:25

Good article in The Times from a Conservative - www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/it-will-take-an-age-to-recover-from-this-victory-for-the-exit-fantasists-zzfpxsc66

FoggyBottom · 24/06/2016 13:25

I think DC will go down in history as the man who truly, deep down in his heart, thinks national politics is a little game played among people who all know each other from school, with no sense of responsibility whatsoever to anyone else, anywhere

Yes!

And as a pig-fucker.

purplevase4 · 24/06/2016 13:28

Some dubious comments by Juncker haven't helped

I don't think Juncker has helped either. There was a reason Cameron did all he could to stop him becoming President.

I'm just very sad about it. The only possibility is that we stay in the EEA. But that means we'll keep free movement. People are saying "out is out" but hopefully people will approach the negotiations rationally and not emotionally. I think it's good that Cameron has said the button won't be pressed on Article 50 until October. It gives everyone a chance to calm down. No need to rush things.

But I am bitter about losing my EU passport when I did not vote for it.

loobyloo1234 · 24/06/2016 13:33

I do think a lot of the leave voters have done so without actually knowing what this means unfortunately.

With all due respect - no shit sherlock! But isn't that the point for some people that voted Leave? That we feel strongly that we are being tied down by the EU and the laws/rules imposed. No one knew what would happen long term in or out of the EU. No one. Other countries may need bailing out - and then what? The UK bail out everyone and we then all end up worse off? Do people realise there was a recession even when we were in the EU? Hmm

Anyway, this thread has blown my mind with the ignorance - good luck to us all. I for one, will remain positive and I hope this leads to bigger and better things for all of us. If Dave and Jeremy had done their jobs and resonated with 'their' people in the way they should have and what they are fucking paid for we would all have voted Remain

WeDoNotSow · 24/06/2016 13:36

I'd like to say it's not wholly the fault of the conservatives.
I mean, who did UKIP poach all their voters from in the first place? And Why/how were they able to

I truly believe that is the key to the answers of this referendum, it's all relevant, and there has been a domino effect since then.

I may be wrong, but it's how I'm seeing it

TulipsInAJug · 24/06/2016 13:39

I am educated to PhD level. I am not a racist why should I even have to say that??

I voted Leave. In the interests, primarily, of democracy.

As a historian I couldn't, in conscience, vote to remain in a fundamentally undemocratic, corrupt, bureaucracy increasingly impinging on our political and legal sovereignty, that is controlled by big business and bankers.

I'm delighted with the result.