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or is anyone else feeling unsettled and just want today to be over

733 replies

Gowgirl · 23/06/2016 13:02

Yes I have voted, but I am sick and tired of the unrest, I'm aware there has been a lot of discontent for a long time but its now feeling toxic and I want it to be over one way or the other.

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AdultingIsNotWhatIExpected · 23/06/2016 18:27

All of them? How many is that?

Okay squoosh calm down, you know know more Irish people living in Britain than me if that makes your day Hmm

thebestfurchinchilla · 23/06/2016 18:27

Yes because the last one was inaccurate.

Brokenbiscuit · 23/06/2016 18:30

I'm feeling very unsettled today too. Really worried about the result.

A colleague told me today that she had voted by post a couple of weeks ago. She chose "leave" because Cameron had pissed her off that day. She said that she now regrets her vote and wishes that she had chosen to stay instead.

I was a bit Shock at the idea of an intelligent, educated woman basing such an important decision on the mood that she happened to be in on a particular day. Made me really concerned that people just haven't thought things through.

AdultingIsNotWhatIExpected · 23/06/2016 18:30

You are talking out of your arse. Mind you, I've seen a lot of that from Brexiters hmm

firstly, I voted IN, but well done for perpetuating the divisiveness anyway
secondly, the Irish citizens I know are all voting Brexit, Most of them have lived here longer than they've lived in Ireland so I don't know why you think the current "feeling" towards the EU in Ireland has more of an effect on them than the feeling in the country they actually live in day to day does?

petitpois55 · 23/06/2016 18:32

I'm fantasising about the brexiters being crushed by a 70/30 vote tomorrow. I know it's never going to happen, but oh just to think about it for a few minutesSmile
Oh and adult you know nothing about Ireland if you think it's desperate to leave the European union. Nothing could be further from the truth. They think the Brits are taking leave of their senses to consider leaving.

LaurieMarlow · 23/06/2016 18:33

Adult, you said this earlier in the thread

The Irish ones want Brexit because it paves the path for Ireland to exit

And I refuted it, because it's utterly ill informed and baseless. It's the last thing they want.

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AdultingIsNotWhatIExpected · 23/06/2016 18:36

FGS I never said that Ireland was going to leave, I said that the Irish Immigrants I know are voting leave because think it'll set up Ireland (and other countries) to leave too.

I don't know if I agree or not, there's lots of talk from Brexit that once England left other countries would follow. I don't think they would TBH I think if that was to happen it would happen far FAR in the future after Britain had well and truely been the guinea pig…. only if britain did BRILLIANTLY 10 years down the line might it encourage others to follow IMO, but that's my opinion, a lot of Brexiters I know think that brexit could be the start of a wider deconstruction

OhYouBadBadKitten · 23/06/2016 18:36

will things shift as the day goes on? Younger people have been polled as being more likely to be Remain I think but they will have largely been at work.

OrangesandLemonsNow · 23/06/2016 18:38

will things shift as the day goes on? Younger people have been polled as being more likely to be Remain I think but they will have largely been at work.

Not necessarily.

Younger people may be more remain but also less likely to vote

No one knows.

AdultingIsNotWhatIExpected · 23/06/2016 18:38

And I refuted it, because it's utterly ill informed and baseless. It's the last thing they want.

And how exactly can you in any half intelligent way, refute with such certainty that that is not the opinion of people who I know who you may or may not know?

They may not be right, but I am not wrong that that is their opinion that they have expressed as the reason why they're voting leave (amongst others)

LaurieMarlow · 23/06/2016 18:39

Adult, what you said was ill informed shite and back tracking now isn't doing you any favours

ViveLesVacances · 23/06/2016 18:39

I think the hardest part of this is all, is it's really revealed the depth to which the country is split.

No matter which way the vote goes, how will we as a nation move on as a cohesive whole? There seems to be a chasm between the sides.

AdultingIsNotWhatIExpected · 23/06/2016 18:41

And Laurie Marlow* since your comprehension skills missed the fact that I posted over and over that I'm IN, I think if anyone's talking out of their arse here it's you

petitpois55 · 23/06/2016 18:42

How many Irish people do you know adult ? Ill informed shite indeed Laurie

sparechange · 23/06/2016 18:42

badlitten
The number in brackets is how it has shifted since 2pm, so it is moving towards remain
The polls aren't exit polls btw. Ipsos and Populus are a combo of phone, Internet and stopping people on the street. Yougov is all online
They all claim to be polling a representative sample so demographics won't figure too much

AdultingIsNotWhatIExpected · 23/06/2016 18:43

Adult, what you said was ill informed shite and back tracking now isn't doing you any favour

Why are you so angry that some of my friends who are Irish are voting out to the point of calling me a liar when you can't possibly know who my friends are or how they're voting? This kind of anger is what is so scary about this whole thing

LaurieMarlow · 23/06/2016 18:44

Adult, I don't care how you voted. I'm objecting what you've said about how the Irish view it. Anyway, I've better things to do than engage any further in a spat with you, so take care.

EatsShitAndLeaves · 23/06/2016 18:44

Well I've cast my "undecided" vote as Remain as I said I would up thread but with a heavy heart.

I worry about the bureaucracy/direction/mandate/democratic basis of the EU and whilst I think we have more opportunity to reform it than we would out, the lack of ability to do so with a referendum imminent doesn't fill me with much hope.

That said the direction of an EU without us as a "power block neighbour" and the pretty much undisputed fallout economically in the short term at least won out.

I stood staring at the ballot paper hoping for option 3 to magically appear saying "Remain - but only on the basis of the the 10 reforms to membership below being agreed by the EU" Sad.

AdultingIsNotWhatIExpected · 23/06/2016 18:45

How many Irish people do you know adult ? Ill informed shite indeed Laurie

I don't know how every Irish citizen has voted, nor do you
I know how my friends are voting, yours obviously are voting differently, we clearly mix in different demographics, why does that make you so angry at me?

petitpois55 · 23/06/2016 18:46

Is it right that there is no exit poll? Is anyone staying up all night? no work for me tomorrow, and DD has a training day, so she says she will try and stay up and keep me companySmile
DH is away for work. I think i need to get the wine in the fridge.

OrangesandLemonsNow · 23/06/2016 18:47

There is no official exit polls.

sparechange · 23/06/2016 18:47

There is no official exit poll but there has been a lot of private polling going on, and some of the methodologies include exit polling
I'm receiving the latest polling data every 2 hours and am happy to share if anyone is interested

petitpois55 · 23/06/2016 18:48

I'm not in the least bit angry, but you made a statement and now you're trying to back track. Just that.

EatsShitAndLeaves · 23/06/2016 18:48

Please do Spare Smile