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Help! Builder threatening small claims court over additional invoice

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FasterThanASnakeAndAMongoose · 17/06/2016 23:38

I've posted about this before, but long story short is that we had major building work done. It massively overran (3 months became 8). We paid all invoices straight away. We agreed some extras and paid separate invoices for these as soon as they were issued. Paid the final invoice the day that we got the completion certificate from Building Control.

Several weeks after completion the builder sent a new invoice for £1600. It was for various extras. None of them had been discussed or quoted for. We weren't happy but offered around £400. We thought this was fair and it covered items which although not agreed, had been done and weren't in the original spec.

The rest of the things he was invoicing for were either stand alone items already specified in previous invoices and paid for, or things which were included in larger aspects of the work.

For example, he wanted over £500 extra for moving drainage in the kitchen. He'd got drawings of the new kitchen, saw the old one (so knew that the sink etc had moved) and the new kitchen was waiting on site before he quoted.

Anyway, we offered him a full and final settlement of just over £600. He rejected it, we offered it again.

He's just emailed. He's rejecting our offer and says if we don't pay the full amount within 21 days he'll take us to small claims.

What now? How likely is this to get to court? Home insurance legal cover people won't advise us until we receive the court paperwork.

Every time we've responded it's then taken him at least 4 weeks to get back to us. This is so stressful and horrible. Any advice would be welcome.

If we do end up in small claims, what's it actually like?

Should we retract our offer now and tell him we'll await instruction, or leave it on the table, or pay him what we think is fair?

Help.

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GloGirl · 11/01/2017 20:15

^^Ignore my last post sorry I was a page behind when I replied! and missed further updates.

limitedperiodonly · 11/01/2017 20:33

I've just googled her. I see she wrote a very stern letter to her local paper two years ago. Nothing since.

WaitrosePigeon · 11/01/2017 21:01

Can't believe this is still going on Shock

limitedperiodonly · 11/01/2017 21:11

I can. Six months is nothing. It's so overloaded

WaitrosePigeon · 11/01/2017 21:18

Sorry you've lost me...

limitedperiodonly · 11/01/2017 22:00

Even the simplest cases like the OP's take a very long time WaitrosePigeon.

I don't know how many there are in each court every year - hundreds? Thousands in the busier courts. Each one has to be dealt with properly with a limited number of staff who are low wage clerks with no legal training processing everything to a formula.

It's a litigant in person process, which keeps costs low but means the system has to cater for the stupidest person. Because that person might be stupid but in the right.

Similarly, they give a lot of leeway to people who get things in late or making no sense. The county court system isn't like a Mumsnet thread on lateness where people bang on about their insistence that people should be punctual. They let people be late time and time again.

To a certain extent I think that's okay. Even though I know from experience that many people take the cake. In the final analysis in my case it was okay. But you have to be very patient. After all, you're not paying much for it and all our justice systems are being slashed

ChasedByBees · 11/01/2017 23:02

(PS zero experience of these kind of things but his arguments don't sound reasonable to me. All the best OP.

CatsRidingRollercoasters · 20/01/2017 14:15

Monday is D Day! OMG OMG OMG.

On the plus side, no matter what happens, DH and I both have the day off work, DC are with the childminder and we're going out for a lovely lunch no matter what!

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 20/01/2017 15:08

Placemarking with baited breath.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 20/01/2017 15:08

Sorry, bated breath.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 20/01/2017 15:10

And if you're full of triumph on Monday you could always pop home after lunch for a celebratory bunk up!

CatsRidingRollercoasters · 20/01/2017 16:21
Grin
Icouldbeknitting · 20/01/2017 17:25

Is it time for a celebratory "whoop" then? Did he actually show or just not bother? Is it THE END or is there something that has to be enforced?

So many questions..

Icouldbeknitting · 20/01/2017 17:27

Oh hell, just ignore me. For reasons too complex to go into I thought it was Tuesday today and Monday was yesterday. I now have to work out whether I'm a week in front or a week behind.

nickelbabeinamanger · 20/01/2017 18:59

It's Friday today Confused

CatsRidingRollercoasters · 20/01/2017 19:17

No problem Icouldbeknitting Grin

It is indeed Friday and the hearing is at 10am on Mon. Will update!

bummymummy77 · 20/01/2017 19:17

It's bloody Friday lol!! Grin

Sleeplessinmybedroom · 20/01/2017 19:37

Hope it goes well for you in court.

FondantNancy · 20/01/2017 19:42

Best of luck! (namechanger from earlier in the thread).

Littledrummergirl · 20/01/2017 20:42

Good luck. FlowersWine

Therealloislane · 20/01/2017 22:01

Good luck!!

NeedMoreSleepOrSugar · 20/01/2017 22:49

Good luck for Monday!!

Mortgagedilemma · 20/01/2017 23:38

Fingers crossed.

Twopeapods · 22/01/2017 22:39

Good luck OP.

bostonkremekrazy · 22/01/2017 23:22

good luck!