To feel so upset about jo cox?

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I didn't know of her before today but this news has devestated me for some reason. Watching the news I couldn't stop crying.

I just keep thinking of her poor kids.

BAdKitten, someone suggest just that on a thread here yesterday!

Thankfully they were deleted pretty quickly.

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OP - there's nothing to be ashamed of. If you didn't feel anything I'd be more shocked. I was tearful last night. Her husband was eloquent in his grief and I can only imagine how horrendous he must be feeling.

It also makes me truly sad about the level of hatred and intolerance now present in this country. I've been watching it grow and grow and now this happens. It's interesting / quite frightening that this has actually ended in MORE vitriol from some quarters.

It's a really sad time and you are perfectly entitled to feel grief.

I saw that bakeoff. Thank goodness mn were on the ball.

Am I unreasonable to feel grief about this tragedy?
Of course not.

Do I need to ask permission on Mumsnet ????

"I'm referring to people who get upset having deeper issues that may be causing them to react so emotionally."

Deeper issues than concern for signs of increasing political, social and cultural instability globally, you mean? Deeper issues than compassion and feeling into our common humanity?

On the contrary, psychological science suggest that harsh irritation at emotion in others in relation to events on the global stage and shaming of those others as "overemotional" might be experiential avoidance of threat based feelings at best, and psychological inflexibility at worst. Feeling emotion is human, normal and to be expected when faced with things that feel threatening and destabilising of one's social or political environment.

If being sad about someone losing their life and posting on here is unreasonable, then how would you define putting the boot into someone who is sad about it?

Much worse surely?

There's more competitive sneering than competitive grief on Mumsnet unfortunately. A hell of a lot more.

Usually from the "this thread is in very poor taste" cut and paste crowd on a lot of other threads.

This is only the second thread I've seen about this. I've had other stuff going on and don't monitor Mumsnet quite as closely as others seem to.

My post sounds harsh. It was intended to be.

Spot on Kidnapped.

" I'm sure we are all in agreement that our sympathies should be reserved for this lady's family and friends. "

No, I'm not in agreement and it doesn't seem that Jo Cox's husband is either.

By distancing ourselves emotionally from this event, we are less likely to become involved in meaningful ways to combat the very hate that cost this woman her life. I don't need "sympathy" for this loss, but I certainly don't think that it is fair to say that people feeling deeply affected by it makes it about "me me me". There is so little separation between us as human beings that we should feel it on a personal level when these things happen. That leads to action and change in the world on the broader level.

Jo Cox stood up for Syrian refugees though their loss was not hers. She felt it deeply and she took action. She didn't say "no, that's sad for them and all sympathies to them, but really it's mawkish and sentimental to take it personally, all this sadness about their death leaves a bad taste in my mouth". She made it personal because she believed in a common humanity. Is that a gushing tribute? Does she not deserve it? I feel angry that she was killed because she had the courage to stand up for her views. Does saying that imply I am talking about me me me or about ALL OF US?

Did someone say Britain First are still campaigning today?

A Facebook 'friend' has been filling her feed with outpourings of sympathy about Jo Cox, yet often posts BF bile.

Thanks, fusion

I'm with you.

Your post is amazing, fusion. And true.

There is some truly eloquent heartfelt writing on this thread.

I really don't want it to be shut down.

I'd never heard of her until yesterday so didn't really feel anything other than complete shock.
But it is terrible that someone has been killed just for doing their job, but sadly it happens ( police officers etc )
But op. Of course yanbu. We're all affected differently by the news.

Great post Fusion - I agree.

Thank you fusion. I also sympathise with sweets' distaste for self indulgent post be someone who just makes it about them though - wanting to practice a bit of tolerance here - maybe they are affected and upset by rhe general tone that is surrounding us, but haven't made rhe connection - because we are losing the habit of thinking collectively. Which is why Jo Cox was so very very admirable, because she hadn't.

I agree Fusion.

A woman who devoted her life working for others, helping vulnerable people all over the world, will not only be missed and mourned by family and friends and nor should she be.

fusion "I feel angry that she was killed because she had the courage to stand up for her views. Does saying that imply I am talking about me me me or about ALL OF U"

I agree so much with this. And I think that's why many, many people have been deeply affected by this killing.

She seemed one of the good ones.

We are faced day in, day out with smug mostly male faces on Tv who rule us or are trying to, they lie, exaggerate, promote fear and hatred of others not "hardworking" or "like us" and we can't stand most of them.

Jo Cox wasn't like that and it's crying shame for the UK that's she's gone.

This happened in my little town, where nothing happens apart from the usual day to day stuff of a small market square. He lived on the next street. He volunteered at the park I go to a couple of times a week. We feel so hurt for her. She really was one of the good ones, she cared and did her best for local people aswell as wanting a better world for everyone. She seemed so lovely.. Her poor husband and kids She put others before her own safety by being a voice for us.

I was talking to someone from ITV yesterday evening and she said it wasn't to do with racism. He was mentally ill and isolated from society for years and years until he started on a community project that changed his life and gave him meaning. Then this was dropped because of cuts, and he blamed her because it was after she got elected... and so focussed all his anger and hate at her for a long time... until he exploded. It was such overkill.

Now that I know there hasn't been another MP murder since 1990 makes it more shocking, I thought there'd at least have been some in London. Evil can be anywhere.

It is normal to feel really upset by a loss like this, we are human! We can relate to her through being a mum, a woman, an innocent, just someone going about their business.. A human being. Of course her family are the ones who are suffering but it's so touching to see the outpouring of grief from strangers. What a sad world it would be without it.

I'm sorry for your loss. It must feel very hard given you live locally. It's a huge shock to the country and that is undoubtedly intensified feeling so close to home.

I'm afraid I don't think conjecture by a reporter is useful though. We also now know that he had been a member of a far- right group and bought books in how to build a gun from a neo-nazi group. Both issues picked up today. I think it's too early to determine the reason behind the brutal and horrific attack.

That's true, it could be a whole number of things and no-one knows for certain unless he opens up to the police.