to NOT think that these bottles are like 'murder bottles'

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I have purchased two of these bottles for my refluxy baby.

After reading some of the comments on a Facebook post of the below picture I am shocked

A small number of posters have likened these bottles to the 'murder bottles' of the 1800s

Although the straw is somewhat reminiscent of the straw of said murder bottles, to me that is where the similarity ends.

Posters have claimed that these bottles will be dangerous and could cause another lot of bacteria related deaths.

Surely - if you clean and sterilise it properly it will be fine. Presumably they did not have the sterilising methods in the 1800s that we have now.

Someone has said that you can't sterilise a straw. Surely you can just pop it in a cold water solution with everything else?

AIBU to think that these people are talking shite, and that these bottles are nothing like murder bottles and will not cause the same consequences for our babies?!

Wtf are murder bottles?

What are murder bottles?!

wtf is a murder bottle

^What they all said

As above. Wtaf?

I didn't know either before I saw these posts and had to google it!

nourishingdeath.wordpress.com/2013/08/15/murder-bottles/

I read about them on that site.

Did that link work?!

I mean this in the nicest way possible but I think you're biggest problem is listening to comments on Facebook.

My daughter has a sippy cup with the same mechanism. It's genius. It goes in the dishwasher no problem and before she was a year I used to just sterilise the straw and weight too- it wasn't an issue!

Mrs. Beeton advised new mothers that it was not necessary to wash the nipple for two or three weeks, allowing the bacteria to flourish and become deadly. This only added to the already problematic “banjo” design.

If you wash it and sterilise it every day it shouldn't be a problem? I doubt nuby wouldn't do rigorous testing on their products?

queenbean yes I probably should have just ignored them - I was just interested as I have never heard of a murder bottle before.

I think they're being ridiculous, though and the comments did not make me reconsider ordering or using these bottles!

*YOUR!! I meant your!

thelady yes I did read that. I don't think the Facebook posters did though considering what they were saying!

I'm pretty confident that I am capable of sterilising a straw and I think they're talking bollocks.

I just don't understand how you could compare these bottles to murder bottles - when we all know how to safely wash and sterilise. I am guessing they didn't sterilise in those days if they weren't even washing teats regularly!

On further inspection Facebook stalking. These posters seem to be 'crunchy breastfeeding mamas' who seem to be dead set against bottle feeding anyway....... Hmm!

OP - lots of people are stupid. Order your bottles, sterilise as instructed & there will be no problem.

If they help use them reflux is a nightmare don't listen to other people!

So the problem with the so-called "murder bottles" was that it was impossible to clean milk residue from the inside of the tube properly and so it became an ideal breeding ground for germs?

Leaving aside the FB hysteria and the "murder bottle" misnomer, neither of Wichita are helpful, let's think this through.

How DO you properly clean inside a tube?

Sterilisation won't work thoroughly if there is residue. You can't use one of the mini 'test brushes' inside a tube.

So, yes, I think concerns about the tube would give me pause.

A particular design of water bottle for older children were revealed to present a similar challenge recently.

"teat brushes"^

I think YABU in that there IS a passing physical resemblance; "murder bottle" is accurate, if inappropriate slang.

I also think by starting this thread you've made a bit of a prat out of yourself

just5mins I assumed (perhaps wrongly?) that the mini teat brush would be mini enough to get into the tube. Failing that I'd probably soak it in hot soapy water immediately after feeding and throw it into some Milton?

I will report back when they arrive and I use them.

fulltimeyummy

I said that they are somewhat reminiscent

However I don't think they are the same in that they will kill children because I don't think that they will.

Do you think they will kill children?

Why am I making a prat of myself?!

I am genuinely interested if I am being unreasonable to think that they are safe and not comparable to 1800s bottles?

I hope so. I'd want to be able to physically scrub every surface that made contact with milk before sterilising.

I mean, before I sterilised, I'd want to be able to scrub every... etc.

I think they would be really difficult to get clean enough to then sterilise so I wouldn't be in a hurry to order them.

On closer inspection, the tube looks big you'd have to really give it a good soak, don't think you'd be able to get a brush down it though.

On the other hand, I'd probably try anything with a refluxy baby