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Not to have been aware about how ingrained snobbery is in private schools?

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Lottielou7 · 09/06/2016 21:38

I have three dc, all of whom have been in and out of both sectors and I don't see either as uniformly better or worse. It all depends on the school and the individual child.

Recently I decided to move one of my dc from an independent school with 10 in a class to one of our localish state schools which we both had a good feeling about and felt would be right for her. She did very well at the indie school academically and in sports but I moved her because of bullying and stealing and the oppressive atmosphere that resulted.

To cut a long story short, the head wanted to speak to me but didn't seem to want to discuss the bullying (specifically of a child with SN) and glossed over it. She then expressed concern that my child was now having to mix with the great unwashed(!)

I didn't realise indie schools were like this, or perhaps what I meant was I didn't realise this one was HmmConfused

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Kummerspeck · 09/06/2016 23:15

I don't think my children faced any more snobbery or theft at their independent school than their friends at the local school did and I know they faced a lot less violence, bullying and drug issues than at our local high school

Lottielou7 · 09/06/2016 23:16

No it says 'not to have been aware' about how snobbery is ingrained. Because I've not come across it before in the same way.

You sound rather defensive.

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Pagwatch · 09/06/2016 23:17

So it's a thread slagging off one school ? The references to ingrained snobbery at private schools and not knowing 'indies were like this' we're sort of typos?

Pagwatch · 09/06/2016 23:18

Hahahaha.

I love the defensive thing.

Lottielou7 · 09/06/2016 23:18

When I first looked at the school I liked the head. So I was rather disappointed to see that she had this attitude in the end.

But then, it seems she was trying to brush it all under the carpet.

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tilder · 09/06/2016 23:21

Honestly? Yes all schools are different and generalisations in a sector blah blah.

The op isn't the first to comment on snobbish behaviour at independent schools. Don't think she will be the last either Wink

DancingDinosaur · 09/06/2016 23:23

When dc's clothes go missing at school they are generally returned the next day, washed and ironed. Snobby bastards. Smile

Lottielou7 · 09/06/2016 23:24

I am not slagging off the school. I am making an observation about the attitude of the head.

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DancingDinosaur · 09/06/2016 23:26

Maybe you should change your thread title then. Just an ovservation....

DancingDinosaur · 09/06/2016 23:26

*obseorvation

DancingDinosaur · 09/06/2016 23:26

Fuck it, fat fingers....

Lottielou7 · 09/06/2016 23:27

No I don't need to change anything. If you read my op to the end and my second post.

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DancingDinosaur · 09/06/2016 23:28

Well don't be surprised if people are a little offended by your thread title then.

Pagwatch · 09/06/2016 23:30

I'd leave it.
It works much better if an incoherent post is given a misleading title. Then we all know the quality of thought processes we are dealing with.

DancingDinosaur · 09/06/2016 23:31
Grin
Lottielou7 · 09/06/2016 23:32

Ok, I have more important things to be offended about personally.

I came at this from the PoV of being a little disappointed that I moved my dd to a school that I thought wouldn't be like this and turned out differently. It made me think that perhaps the original school which I attended myself is just unusual. Which is why I was asking about the experiences of others. And it does appear that I'm not alone tbh.

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katemiddletonsothermum · 09/06/2016 23:34

I agree with you OP and I'm feeling very jaundiced at the moment. It depends on the school and the region. I'm surrounded by snobbish cows who look down on me because DH commutes in standard class rather than first. In fact, it's worse - "Eueeuuwww, he goes in every DAY does he? You mean you don't have a flat in London?"

Am thinking of putting DS into a selective grammar for secondary school. The parents will think it's because we can't afford the fees but it's because I don't want him to grow up to be a knobhead.

Pagwatch · 09/06/2016 23:38

My DC have been, between then, to 6 different private schools. One was populated with snobby arseholes. All the others have been really nice schools populated with mostly nice people - no where is perfect.

The absoloutely worst snobbery I have ever seen was at my friends school not far from here. State school with an intake drawn mostly from people buying expensive houses locally.

It always depends on the school. And stigmatising schools is often just a way of being foul about children.

Dapplegrey2 · 09/06/2016 23:39

Op your last post isn't clear. Are you saying that you went to an independent school which was good, but after your dd's experiences you now think that it is more usual for an independent school to be a hotbed of theft, bullying and snobbery and full of horrible 'posh' people?

Lottielou7 · 09/06/2016 23:45

I agree that it always depends on the school.

I will admit that I don't have a very positive view of children at that particular schools since they were bullying a child with Sen, some of them with their parents encouragement. My daughter also said that they made her uncomfortable because of their racist remarks /laughing at the mandarin teacher.

But the point is that a school ethos attracts certain customers who want to give their custom. This doesn't happen in a state school in the same way generally, because they are obliged to take children from a range of backgrounds. (With the exception of selective grammar schools)

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DancingDinosaur · 09/06/2016 23:48

But the point is that a school ethos attracts certain customers who want to give their custom.

And they would be the customers ingrained with snobbery who don't want their children to mix with the great unwashed.... Right?

Pagwatch · 09/06/2016 23:50

[sigh]

My middle son is profoundly disabled with severe ASD.

No, bullying of children with SEN has not been an issue at any school my chikdren have attended. And they would tell me if they heard or saw one thing. My DD has three girls in her class with siblings with SN. I'm not sure why you think bullying of children with SEN is likely to be a common problem? Neither would racism be acceptable.

But I see you are back to all schools again now. It's jolly hard to keep up.

Pagwatch · 09/06/2016 23:51

If you are a Matthew Wright researcher, you are even more shit than the usual ones.

Lottielou7 · 09/06/2016 23:53

Where did I say that bullying of children with Sen is common in private schools? I have a severely disabled child too which is why it wasn't a pleasant thing for her sister to bear witness to day in, day out.

The original post was about the head and how I noticed she didn't want to talk about this key issue.

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Lottielou7 · 09/06/2016 23:55

Pagwatch - your posts are a lot more inflammatory than mine imho.

If you think I'm a researcher I couldn't care less.

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