To think our house is haunted?

[Amy214]

Quite long sorry

My mum has lived here for 36 years (my dad moved in at a later date. Mum was just divorced with 2 children) and only 2 people have previously lived here (it was a new ish house back then) when my siblings were younger they experienced some weird things (in my room mostly) my sister said she would see dark shadows standing at the bottom of her bed, she also said she seen a woman who looked like my mum with a jacket on and had her handbag. My brother also experienced someone punching underneath his bed (was full of toys and other rubbish so no one could fit underneath) my mum also checked under the bed and no one was there. He also felt someone breathing on his face. I am now in the same room and i have also felt/heard some weird things. My niece used to stay overnight and she would wake up in the middle of the night and just stare at the door and laugh (room was dimly lit) she is 3 now and has spoke about a man and woman being in the house (casual conversations with thin air) now dd is here weirder things have happened, dd used to sleep in my room and one day when i went to pick her up from a nap she looked right past me and laughed at something, i stepped away and she was still staring at the same thing. She also giggles as if they have said/done something naughty. When im in the room myself i always feel something tugging at my arm or scratching my foot. i have also seen dark shadows at the end of my bed, also at night i always hear a newborn baby cry (we are the only ones in the block with a toddler, neighbours are older) i also hear what sounds like children running up and down the stairs. 3 nights ago i was lying in bed and i heard a mans voice clear as day in my ear, it was very deep and i couldnt understand a word. I got such a fright i leapt out of bed and switched the light and no one was there, no one was outside and my dad was sleeping. Since dd has moved into her own room she has settled and no longer wakes up in the night. How do i check who the previous occupants were? And if there was a death? The house was built in 1975. Or are we just crazy

You've explained the pointlessness of the suggestion of television appearances better than I could, Dione. Holographic projections, mass hysterical hallucination by studio audience etc. All that would be trotted out.

Dione We are not 'po-faced puritans' we are, as alarming as it might sound, 'realists'. As a pp mentioned why do ghosts go for pushing boxes around the room or slamming doors. If I were a ghost I'd go to a live TV audience to prove my 'appearance'.

If someone takes comfort in the thought that a deceased love one is watching over them then that's fine. But to unequivocally state events that have happened are done by a ghost, and at that a ghost with no sense of humour then that needs addressing. It's incorrect, it just doesn't happen.

I was asked about religious beliefs earlier and to be frank if your religious beliefs allow you to kill another being in the name of your god or allow you to remove body autonomy from a woman in the name of your god then you're equally, if not more, a concern and a risk to society.

From this thread alone we have a dodgy DVD player and a phone disappearing and reappearing . There must be perfectly reasonable and rational explanations but no - let's just say it was a ghost at work. Did said ghost offer up tonight's lotto numbers?

So your definition of a "realist" is someone who repeatedly telks someone else that they are wrong because they have a different belief to you? Because that sounds like a po faced puritan to ne.

Yes Liz. Straightforward hallucinations (auditory, visual, somatic, olfactory), sleep hallucinations, simple or complex partial seizures, folie et duex proceeding to other groups, collective hallucinations, social acceptability bias etc etc all explain what you claim.

I had a huge interest in the paranormal for years. I haven't seen anything not explained by psychology. There have been many studies conducted by many educated parapsychologists (desperate to believe) and standard psychologists or neuropsychs. Telekinesis, mind reading or communicating with spirits has been extensively researched by several counties. No evidence has been found by open minded researchers. Men who stare at goats was a serious experiment not just a film. The possible implication of the spirit world, mind reading, telekinesis etc is so profound that of course governments research it. Huge amounts of money invested resulted in no evidence.

If sounds like your experiences may prove the existence that hasn't been proved before now so I think you should report it.

does the apple - find my iphone app work through different dimensions?

maybe you could track its journey from your pocket

I have had several ghostly encounters. The last one was very recent,
I was working in a modern industrial unit. A cheery man passed me and said hello. He was wearing red overalls and I guessed he was about 60 ish.
I mentioned him to my colleagues as I didn't know engineers worked after about 5. 30 pm.
They asked for a description and the told me it was " George" the resident ghost. He had died in hospital a couple of years earlier after having a heart attack.
Apparently he was a labourer , not an engineer and would work every hour God sent.
He was not a ghostly apparition. He was very much a 3D figure.

"the fact that kids are in the house is a more likely explanation of most stuff moving or turning stuff off/on"

I'm not the OP, but that theory doesn't work when there are no children in the house when such things happen. As for your suggestion that a child may have turned something on or off, give me a bloody break, please. I'm not a fricking idiot. I'm talking about something turning on or off when nobody is anywhere near it.

well clearly if there are no kids in your house, kids would seem unlikely to moving stuff. it can only be ghosts as that is the most likely

So your definition of a "realist" is someone who repeatedly telks someone else that they are wrong because they have a different belief to you? Because that sounds like a po faced puritan to ne.

No. If someone chooses to put peanut butter on top of butter on toast or votes for UKIP they have a different belief and way of doing things than I do. If someone drinks wine after beer or watches Keeping up with the Kardashians for style tips then they have a different belief to me.
But saying that a ghost moved a box, slammed a door or put on a DVD is quite frankly wrong and incorrect. You can have any sort of lifestyle you want. But to post on a public forum and earnestly claim that there is a ghost lurking in your house is bizarre if not down right silly. Why, I ask again, is this ghost never apparent in front of the masses or does things in front of said masses that cannot be refuted? I watch PMQs most Wednesdays and I did used to attend it when I was a journalist - why can't ghost come out infront of us journalists? I know... because they don't exist.

Your use of the word Puritan is highly ironic considering its historical context.

I must say I find it strange how many aren't prepared to believe in ghosts. Why should we only believe in rational things. I think a ghost is possibly a soul that is not yet at rest.

But I STILL don't know what threw things down my stairs!!

I just listened to an podcast about a family that believed they were being haunted. Experienced sleep paralysis, feelings of being touched in certain rooms, hearing voices, seeing shadows and people etc etc... Turned out it was an old air conditioning unit or similar that was emitting low levels of carbon dioxide into the air causes them to hallucinate/hear things/feel sensations etc.

They took out the unit and the 'haunting' stopped immediately.

There's always an explanation.

If these things always happen when you are tired, in bed, asleep or drowsing then it's almost definitely your brain tricking you.

I'm a church goer, a believer in God.
I do not fear him in any way.
Ghosts are mentioned in the Bible.
In time we will have a scientific explanation for such " apparitions"

Ok Adrenaline, prove to me that the OP is wrong and incorrect. Because without proof why should I believe you?

ghosts are in the bible? well, case closed- it must be true as everything written in that book by the various different people over large periods of time and then edited and translated by lots more different people is true

op - yanbu

Ok Adrenaline, prove to me that the OP is wrong and incorrect. Because without proof why should I believe you?

go to the corner and think about what youve just said

clue- you cant prove a negative and it also the burden of proof is on those who proclaim the supernatural and miracles etc

I'm not asking her to prove that ghosts don't exist. I'm asking her to prove that the OP is "wrong and incorrect". Without proof, all she is doing is stating an alternative belief as fact.

you need to go back to the corner and start thinking again

Ok then, Adrenaline, please show me your evidence that the OP is "wrong and incorrect".

what do you want? Adrenaline to post a youtube link of a cat turning on op's tap or something?

Dione I really think I'll bow out now as your previous two comments really made me laugh. I should be the one to provide "evidence" . Irony clearly isn't your friend.

Without proof, all she is doing is stating an alternative belief as fact.

No shit huh!?

Adrenaline stated that this is not a case of differing beliefs (which it is), but that the OP is "wrong and incorrect". A video of a cat turning on the tap would indeed prove that the OP is "wrong and incorrect".

The burden of proof remains with the person saying it is true. That's reality. In law also.

So its not a case of saying unbelievers or sceptics don't believe and are refusing to join in or whatever.

If you believe then the burden of truth is on you.

Prove it happened.