To think our house is haunted?

[Amy214]

Quite long sorry

My mum has lived here for 36 years (my dad moved in at a later date. Mum was just divorced with 2 children) and only 2 people have previously lived here (it was a new ish house back then) when my siblings were younger they experienced some weird things (in my room mostly) my sister said she would see dark shadows standing at the bottom of her bed, she also said she seen a woman who looked like my mum with a jacket on and had her handbag. My brother also experienced someone punching underneath his bed (was full of toys and other rubbish so no one could fit underneath) my mum also checked under the bed and no one was there. He also felt someone breathing on his face. I am now in the same room and i have also felt/heard some weird things. My niece used to stay overnight and she would wake up in the middle of the night and just stare at the door and laugh (room was dimly lit) she is 3 now and has spoke about a man and woman being in the house (casual conversations with thin air) now dd is here weirder things have happened, dd used to sleep in my room and one day when i went to pick her up from a nap she looked right past me and laughed at something, i stepped away and she was still staring at the same thing. She also giggles as if they have said/done something naughty. When im in the room myself i always feel something tugging at my arm or scratching my foot. i have also seen dark shadows at the end of my bed, also at night i always hear a newborn baby cry (we are the only ones in the block with a toddler, neighbours are older) i also hear what sounds like children running up and down the stairs. 3 nights ago i was lying in bed and i heard a mans voice clear as day in my ear, it was very deep and i couldnt understand a word. I got such a fright i leapt out of bed and switched the light and no one was there, no one was outside and my dad was sleeping. Since dd has moved into her own room she has settled and no longer wakes up in the night. How do i check who the previous occupants were? And if there was a death? The house was built in 1975. Or are we just crazy

I don't watch soaps and have extensive experience with mental illness. Talking to people who are not there and being convinced they are moving your possessions around is not normal and needs investigating.

I agree with SquashyHat, it's normal stuff that hasn't as yet been explained by science. Look how much more we understand now scientifically than we did say 100 years ago.

Of course that doesn't mean than over active imaginations don't also play a part in some instances, or sleep paralysis etc. Also, people like to make stuff up sometimes. It's human nature.

I still think that lots of people have witnessed things that are so weird that they can't be explained at the moment. Hopefully one day we will understand more.

A question for you Penguin. You mention the people who hear voices, see ghosts etc, and question their mental health.
How would you explain physical objects being thrown down the stairs when no one is up there? That can't be down to imagination surely

Listen, Finely, you're not bothering or offending me; just trotting out the same old same old. I mean, if you're just going to persistently disbelieve what a person is saying and instead conveniently come out with the "psychiatric help" line, then it does as if you're wasting your time reading any of this, but hey, it's your time.

And what the heck is it with all this reporting your own posts? You haven't said anything or offensive.

Oh, and for other cynics out there, I would love for somebody to explain to me how schizophrenia or any other form of mental illness can make objects move in a locked, empty room. Or how likely it is that four seemingly rational adults can observe the same phenomena in the same place at the same time - perhaps we were all having a temporary collective bout of insanity?

Presumably also, the retired school teacher, professional musician, classically trained musician and university lecturer (and wife) who I know have all witnessed ADC are all similarly in need of MH treatment?

Oh, and as I imagined, not one of the sceptics have proffered a single explanation for any of the phenomena I described in my first post on this thread. Just the usual "that can't happen so you must be lying or deluded blah blah." Well, newsflash - it did happen, all of it. So then your argument falls apart; you keep bleating, "no it didn't happen", and so it goes, round and round in circles. Anybody who's experienced anything unexplained is used to the drill.

I'm hoping for an explanation for moving objects too liz

There is no explanation for things moving by themselves. I have been around people that have mh and i can tell you they dont tell me they are talking to ghosts!

Penguin, if you honestly think that I am so blind and stupid that I cannot find a blackberry sized phone, in a bright pink neon pouch, in one of two pockets or a small rucksack, then you are the person who is deluded, not me. And if you had read my post properly, you would know that in the time my phone was returned to my coat pocket ("gosh, how could I possibly have missed this phone when I last checked; it being the only object in said pocket, taking up most of its space?"), I was not in the hallway, and nor was any other living person. How many times must I repeat myself? So no, I didn't see anything "floating through the air". But my phone was returned, into the aforementioned pocket, after I'd laughingly ordered its return.

And no, I can't necessarily understand or explain how it's done, either. I just observe and draw conclusions from my ten years of experiences. There's a shitload out there that we don't fully understand. Simply dismissing people's accounts because you don't "get it" is rather immature, don't you think?

Sorry, Sultan; I can't help you with that; I don't understand how it happens, either; only that it does.

I'm hoping penguin can enlighten us.

Liz70- ignore them I believe you. Ghosts / no ghosts ? The truth is we don't know. Over my x years I have been to 2 friends houses and both times immediately crossing the door have detected a presence and could pin point it to a specific room where it was strongest . it's literally a physical feeling as clear as it were warmth or cold . My mum can feel it too. At one house to test i wasn't imagining it I took my dog ( golden retriever) who literally will eat anything and laid a trail of dog biscuits up the stairs to the room and watched as the dog got halfway up the stairs, stopped, whimpered and ran out of the house . Interestingly the couple were newly married and very in luuve. When I visited again presence which had felt not nice was all gone.

I don't believe it was my imagination. I am not a ohh must be a ghost believer I just think there are something's which are unexplained.

It truly is like their brains have fallen out. Arrogant. Stupid. Bat shit crazy. Thick. Half a brain

Lovely things to say about people. Yes. The ''genuine concern'' is just pouring out

It's one thing to disagree with a persons opinion or belief, but quite another to throw insult around about their intelligence. Worse to later dress it up as 'concern'.

For my part i was on the fence about all this until a few years ago when i had an experience (at work, fully awake, in the sun, not somewhere atmospheric or old or creepy) It leaves you with a very uncomfortable feeling. You want answers, and no one can give you one. Even you. And you were the one there!

Lots of people long for something 'woo' to happen to them. It's fun to read other peoples stories (yes, some probably made up) and fun to frighten yourself a bit. However when something does happen to you it can cease to be fun. No body deserves to be called names for retelling their experiences and revealing their conclusions.

I don't consider any of this to be "fun", Epona, but then I'm not frightened either now. At least, not now I'm past the initial fear of when things first started happening. I was bloody scared then! But after a couple of years I realised that I had to confront what was going on, and start reading, asking advice, and gaining some understanding. Knowledge counters fear, and now, ten years on, I have no fear of it anymore.

So for those of you who apparently live among a whirling maelstrom of moving objects and darent cross a room for fear of flying phones - ever set up video cameras? Called in "experts"?

Don't tell me - you don't need to prove it because you know it happens and that's enough.
Or you have set up cctv - but those pesky clever ghosts never do anything when they're being watched.
Or you don't think it's right to mess with ghosts because consequences.
Or you're just so used to all the paranormal activity that you don't notice it any more.
Or you're just not interested/can't be bothered to get any actual OBSERVABLE evidence.

Tell you what, if I lived in a house where I was convinced things moved around of their own accord, I'd set up cctv bloody EVERYWHERE. And if I caught something genuinely paranormal I would quite happily tell the world I was wrong to be a sceptic.

But people who claim to experience these sorts of occurrences never seem interested in actually getting evidence. Wonder why? 🙄

Well, no, SoSly, I'm not interested in living my life under constant CCTV surveillance, actually, because for a start, we don't have the funds, it ain't exactly conducive to family life, and as I and many others have found, electrical equipment frequently fails or goes awry when attempts are made to record phenomena. That isn't "convenient"; it simply happens. Having observed an unplugged appliance continue to operate without any obvious source of power, I'm well aware of this.

Also, ateotd I don't need a shitload of equipment trailing around my house to " prove" to myself, or anybody else, what I'm observing. That wouldn't help me understand it any better.

And again, I don't need to prove anything to anyone I'm not looking to gain anything, financially or otherwise, and never have done. I am simply relating some of my experiences to anybody who may be interested.

Consider the thought that life isn't lived in a lab under controlled conditions, events cannot be necessarily be replicated in front of a panel of scientists, and that just because something cannot proven, does not mean that it isn't real.

In my case Youre it wasn't a whirling maelstrom of moving objects, and it happened a good few years ago. Things were thrown down the stairs a couple of times when no one was up there.

You obviously think people are lying, but I can assure you I'm not.

Simply dismissing people's accounts because you don't "get it" is rather immature, don't you think?

Posts about seeing ghosts in one thing, and yes I do think that its silly, and childish to believe in such things.
BUT the posts about truly thinking that a spirit stole your phone and then you talked to it and the ghost brought it back....COME ON, people! This is NOT ok. This truly is a sign of mental illness, its not harmless woo dabbling, its hallucination and paranoia.

I'm not being a goady cunt. If this wasn't a ghosty thread, if someone just started a post saying they were utterly sure that invisible people were stealing their possessions and then putting them back when told to, do you really not think that most responses would not be: seek help?
Calm down with the defensive "we can't explain eveything" bullshit and be fucking reasonsable!

The only time I have been obviously aware of an object "flying" across a room was when that box left that shelf and travelled four feet across the room, then touched the back of my lower leg very lightly, before dropping to the floor. I was alone in the room, with the door bolted, the window closed, and no draughts.

I didn't actually see it move, nor how fast it travelled, because my back was turned at the time. And no, it didn't simply fall off the shelf, drop to the floor and bounce back up to hit my leg, four feet away, because I'm damned sure that I would have heard a plastic box hitting a tiled floor, and last I checked, a hard, plastic box doesn't bounce particularly well on tiles anyway (try it for yourself).

And neither do I live in fear. If I had the slightest concern that either myself or any of my family were at risk of any sort of harm over the last ten years, be assured I would have done something about it.

Ok I give up. Enjoy your delusions.

"BUT the posts about truly thinking that a spirit stole your phone and then you talked to it and the ghost brought it back....COME ON, people! This is NOT ok. This truly is a sign of mental illness, its not harmless woo dabbling, its hallucination and paranoia."

I have simply, and patiently, I think, explained exactly what happened, more than once, so I'm not going to repeat myself yet again.

I understand that this must send your own logical reasoning and understanding into malfunction mode because you cannot, in your own awareness, experience and comprehension, conceive that such an event can be possible, and that the only way that you can counter such claims is by accusing the claimant of mental illness, but that, frankly, is your problem, not mine.

I am being perfectly reasonable. You can't get your head around what I'm saying; you refuse to believe it, so you resort to being abusive. Go ahead because as I said earlier, it's water off a duck's back.

Oh, and I hardly consider hiding my phone for a couple of minutes before returning it to be "stealing" it.

"Ok I give up. Enjoy your delusions."

Ah, there, you have to back down because there's nowhere else for you to go when myself and others repeatedly insist that what has happened to them really did take place. You can't explain it, you can't understand it, so by your reasoning, we're all just deluded. Cheery bye then.

Liz, you're baffled by my way of thinking and I am by yours. Let's leave it that.

*leave it at that

I know it wasn't necessarily the intention but this thread has been properly laugh out loud funny! I'm not in the slightest bit woo and I certainly don't believe in ghosts but I do find people that believe earnestly hilarious.

People have all kinds of irrational beliefs, some believe in ghosts others believe that they can diagnose MH issues in strangers over the internet.

Because MH issues exist. They are proven to exist. Ergo they are a far more likely explanation than ghosts, which do not exist.