AIBU to think this child's t-shirt is inappropriate

[westcountrywoman]

Saw this in Sainsbury's tonight . It's age 3. Seriously? Is a 'selfie queen' a desirable label for a toddler?

WTF is wrong with a Peppa Pig t-shirt for this age group?

I would just say naff as well.

Inappropriate are the t-shirts for babies reading
'Are you my daddy?'
'Daddy's little mistake'
'Mummy should have swallowed'

You say inappropriate. I say comedy classics.

Almost as good as the 'sex instructor, first lesson free' t shirts that were the mainstay of cult clothing in the late 90s.

Maybe the only clothing allowed should be gender neutral and come from Boden? Or maybe as long as it isn't actually offensive shops should be allowed to sell a range of clothes and customers can choose whether to buy them or not.

UmbongoUnchained if your child or any child wanted to spend all day posting selfies that is up to them, of course. But little girl's T-shirts contain messages about what is expected of them and it's usually very little, expect being pretty, and a princess etc.

Boys clothes say things like super hero, girls tops say things like 'future wife'. There is nothing wrong with being a wife but why do we define women in relation to their relationships, when we don't do that for men and boys?

That's my view.

But others might see girls tops as having positive messages and boy's tops having 'negative' messages.

community.babycentre.co.uk/post/a9049775/wyoo_differences_between_boys_and_girls_slogan_shirts

I think most agree girls' and boys' T-shirts say very different things.

This article explains things quite well and contains some very interesting T-shirts and tops!

www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/03/dangerous-lessons-from-sexist-shirts_n_6102096.html

Tbh I don't really put a lot of thought into a Tshirt..

"Or maybe as long as it isn't actually offensive shops should be allowed to sell a range of clothes and customers can choose whether to buy them or not." One, I agree people should be free to buy them as long as they are not offensive.

But I also think it is interesting to think what messages these say about the parents, and what they are projecting onto the kids.

UmbongoUnchained but the market does. It's really worth reading that article in the Huffingtonpost. But my comment was not directed at your child, I posted my first post before I saw your comment, it just looked like it had popped up in response to yours, which was not my intention!

Haha it's ok! I'm virtually impossible to offend so don't worry. My daughter can't read so I'd dress her in anything. She does have a shirt that says #cute which I'm sure mumsnet would luuuurve.

UmbongoUnchained it's not that I don't think kids can be cute, it's that I think they can be more and I get frustrated by slogans that suggest boys are better than girls.

We don't have a lot of spare cash so dd (now 11) more hand me downs, NCT sales clothes and supermarket clothes but I still managed to avoid too many slogans about shopping etc!

Still it is good to think about this stuff.... you seen this... (NOT that I like Dove destroying the Rain forest and all) but this ad is great....

Given that DS2 took his first "selfie" with the tablet aged around 14m, I wouldn't say it's inappropriate as such, but yes, it's totally tacky and awful. And par for the course, these days, sadly. :(

Better a queen than a princess. That's what I say.

And I agree about the subliminal messages that these slogan'd clothes give to both sexes.

Slightly off topic, and I've posted about it before, I think - there was this

Thumb that is such a crap ad!

It reads 'You are thick, buy our product.' To which the reply is 'You are thick to think we want to!'

I don't have periods anymore and I am shit at maths, and have no sense of direction but... like you say... I am not all women!

Definitely naff. Not something I would buy but plenty of people will. Perhaps the same parents who prefer 'future hunk/beauty-queen' baby on-board car signs.
Speaks volumes.

I bought one of these for dd, every girl should have one. Especially if they are interested in working in male dominated careers.
www.cafepress.com/girlscantwhat

My 5 yo DD is the selfie queen, and has been since about 3, you can always tell when she's been near someone's phone, and I tend to get texts from my mum/friends telling me how long they'd spent deleting photos! Like a PP's, my Mum would definitely buy her that T-short if she came across it.
So YABU! If you don't like it, don't buy it!

But I also think it is interesting to think what messages these say about the parents, and what they are projecting onto the kids.

So what? Who's to say your way and the choices you make an project onto your kids are better than someone elses? Maybe you could look at it that this is somehingvthat gives children pride in the way they look and not to give a shit what others think. Tbh it just makes you come across as judgy and a snob.

I get frustrated by slogans that suggest boys are better than girls.

This again. The slogan depicted here does no such thing. I get frustrated by the amount of boy bashing that goes on on here.

A bit naff.

Not inappropriate. It's not sexist, not rude. Both my kids took 'selfies' from young ages. Dd is 12 so long before the selfie craze. Thankfully it was a digital camera so I didn't have to print them off. Ds does it on my phone or the iPad. Some kids love taking their own photo.

We all project on to our own kids. Everyone projects something a bit naff at times.

Inappropriate are the t-shirts for babies reading
'Are you my daddy?'
'Daddy's little mistake'
'Mummy should have swallowed'

these are just awful.

The selfie queen one is ok, not hideous, but I would expect it to be for dc a lot older than 3!

It's just ugly.

Newlife4me tbh I don't see any difference between the girls can't what? Tshirt and the Sainsburys one. I've 3 daughters, they don't need a tshirt to proclaim they can do anything they want - they are brought up to believe it - its reinforced to them every day by their parents, their teachers, their grandparents including the very likely to buy offending tshirt nana. The cafe press tshirt is a bit too cool for school to me, more for the parents to feel self congratulatory about, in the same vein as parents who dress their babies in Ramones tshirts.

Meh, I wouldn't buy it but it's not that offensive.

My kids all have ramones and red hot chili pepper t-shirts. Purely for my satisfaction. And I'm not ashamed of that

I sometimes think that people on mumsnet have a different meaning for inappropriate.

Inappropriate in this sense means it's not up to middle class/lentil weaving standards.