Should Disney have a same sex couple?

[EveOnline2016]

Just getting views.

This is something I feel like Disney movies should have.

Being in a same sex couple is nothing to hide from children.

[magratsflyawayhair]

Someone commented earlier about not raising 'these issues' too early. How is two men or two women being together an issue? It's just a relationship. The fact it's still considered 'an issue' is appalling.

My 4 1/2 year old were talking about marriage yesterday and she was quite happy that any combination of gender could get married. She doesn't quite get why she can't marry her brother yet, but it's progress.

[NeedACleverNN]

How did I miss that the shopkeeper's OH was a man? How?

I was thinking the exact same thing! It was completely subtle and therefore all the more reason for a same sex relationship. It doesn't have to be in your face snogging snd sex. It can actually be all about love.

Unfortunately I don't think it will happen anytime soon. The people who don't think children should be introduced to same sex couples scream loudly about it. My SIL is gay and is getting married to her gf in June. Now my children are young (3 and 14 months) so have probably never even thought about it but they will grow up knowing its normal

[TheDropBear]

See now thinking about Doctor Who I don't think that's quite comparable to animated Disney, think the intended audience is a bit older. But it's probably age wise very comparable to Marvel. Now I can imagine a gay superhero in the MCU films (which Disney have the rights to) doing very well. There's a big history of LGBT characters in comics so when are they gonna do a film one. I vote for SteveXBucky

[ollieplimsoles]

I think that having a same sex couple in disney would be good, it would open up so many more stories and interesting character dynamics. But I can't see a way disney would do it nothing it being a money making scheme 'hey look at us, we're progressive!'

Afro you are more than entitled to your opinion.

Lulu you are a nasty piece of work aren't you?- how dare you bring someone's parenting into a discussion like that.

[Toddzoid]

Elsa could very well be a lesbian. I can totally see that working. Why shouldn't they? They've seemingly got progressively more liberal over the past decade with a black princess, independent princesses that don't need no man etc so WHY NOT. It's the next natural, normal step.

[FirstWeTakeManhattan]

Since Disney isn't the only glimpse of the wider world our young DC get, have you asked the BBC to feature a same-sex relationship on CBeebies?

[FirstWeTakeManhattan]

For what it's worth, I actually think Elsa is a lesbian. But is that just because she wasn't paired off with someone?

[startrek90]

I don't mind a gay relationship in Disney movies but why does it have to be Elsa? Why can't we have a strong, independent female character who is happy with her family? Why is it she must be paired up? Can't one of the guys be gay?

There aren't enough single women in leading roles that are happy alone.... I don't know why we rush to tell girls (whether straight or gay) that they have to get a partner. We don't do it with every male character why do we do it with women?

[NellWilsonsWhiteHair]

No no no, Merida has that independent woman thing covered. (I realise there is definitely space for plenty more like that but) Elsa is SO GAY.

[Spermysextowel]

Manhattan is right. Some posters don't like Disney no matter what but will be happy with BBC output. at least there's an element of choice with Disney. It's a business not a public service.

[SouperSal]

I thought there was a gay character in a CBeebies programme......... The one made by PC Plum from Balamory.

[MiddleClassProblem]

I'm not sure how many CBeebies programmes are about falling in love but cbbc did do a few programmes about transgender children last year which I thought was brilliant. As for kids it was from the child's point of view about what it's like for them. No questions just one of their little documentaries saying this is me and this is my life

[magratsflyawayhair]

I suppose a program doesn't have to be about falling in love to acknowledge that LGBT relationships are pretty common and usual though. A character whose parents happen to be same sex would fulfil the brief. What if Topsy and Tim had two dads for example. It's would just be what it is

(I'm not suggesting they should split up T&T's parents because the dad is having an affair with a man. For all it would be interesting to see how that panned out. But just a normal family programme where the parents happen to be same sex. It never even needs to be talked about.)

[HowLongTillTippingPoint]

Gober In how to train your dragon 2 is gay and although not Disney, Marge's sister Patty in the Simpson is gay too and also smithers. Hey Arnold had gay characters too.

I don't think it's up to Disney alone to make sure their characters match more with reality.

[MiddleClassProblem]

I guess the twirlywoos are non gender specific. In just thinking of the shows we watch and other than woolly and tig or my first (could have had a same gender parent family in already) the rest are something special, in the night garden and let's play so that's what I mean about no love. It's not even that parents are in it

[BriteRainbowBright]

Surely with Disney it comes down to money. They are a huge money making corporation who are not going to invest in a film that (unfortunately) would be unwatchable in large areas of the world. It always comes back to the bottom line.

[LouBlue1507]

If you don't like how Disney make their films or portray characters then don't let your children watch them.. It quite simple.

I was brought up on Disney, had all the videos and even watch them now. I'm not homophobic, racist or confused because I grew up on Disney, I'm not any of those things because my parents didn't rely on cartoons to educate me about the world!!

[FirstWeTakeManhattan]

BriteRainbow I agree. Disney isn't the place to start. I think if you want to see more same sex couples and generally more inclusive viewing, then start with the first programmes the DC watch.

It's not about 'falling in love', as of course that's not CBeebies material. It's about the parents hovering around in the background sometimes being two men, or the happy home that's being portrayed being the home of a single parent.

That's the place to start, in my view.

[AllThePrettySeahorses]

Elsa's queen so probably has to have children - I actually rather like the idea of her raising a family in a same-sex relationship.

Aren't Penny Pocket and Susie Sweet a couple in Balamory?

[silvermantela]

LouBlue1507 you probably shouldn’t talk about things you don't fully understand. The recent outcry about lesbians being killed off included comprehensive statistics about lesbian deaths over the last 30 odd years of TV - they showed, amongst other things, that a lesbian character was killed off 5 x more often than a male character of equal narrative importance, and that a lesbian character was 3 x more likely to be killed (not just written off or downgraded to a minor character) but to specifically be killed rather than have a happy ending. Can you really not see what message this is giving out to young gay/bisexual teens? It’s not about TV lesbians having magic immunity from diseases or bullets, it’s giving young people a chance to see people like them without the expectation that this character will probably die sooner or later, while the straight male characters live on.

That’s when TV shows featuring a sexual minority are so rare anyway – when a gay character is killed off the viewer can’t just flick over and watch any other show with a gay paring instead – there aren’t enough.

Also, if you are talking about the 100 death, there was a lot more to it than just the lesbian character being killed off – to summarise the writers blatantly assured the young, vulnerable fans (by going on forums they frequented, specifically adding them on twitter/tumblr etc.) that this was a safe show that respected them, they promised the character would definitely not be killed, leaked pictures of the actress on set in the final episode…and then killed her off anyway…think it resulted in several direct suicides among the young fans iirc.

Btw when I agree to Disney including more diversity I’m not thinking specifically about the one big princess film they put out every two years, but the thousands of films, TV shows, channels and adverts they directly, or indirectly fund. So it doesn’t have to be as major as ‘Elsa gets a wife,’ straightaway (although if it was, great), but they should definitely be including one or two side characters who just happen to be in a same-sex relationship in one of their multiple media outputs, and then going on from there.

[Waltermittythesequel]

I think the posters desperately wanting Elsa to be gay are just as bad, tbh.

Why can't she just be her? Why does she have to have a sexually assigned to her at all?

As for TG, I despair.

Do you want one of the princesses doing full frontal pre and post op??

[Primaryteach87]

I'm not against it but neither do I think it's essential. Disney isn't the be all and end all and tbh I would probably hate it for unrelated reasons (like its depiction of women or romance).... So I'm happy to talk to this naturally with my toddler as it comes up and probably repeatedly over time without the benefit of Disney!

[LouBlue1507]

So a character shouldn't be killed off because she's lesbian? That's ridiculous! And I'm sorry but if people are committing suicide because a character has been killed off then that's just as ridiculous. I'm all for equality which means that anyone can be killed off at any point, not given 'priority' just because they're gay/lesbian/black/Asian.

As for the 100, that actress left as she wanted to focus on 'the walking dead'. Have you not noticed that the MAIN character is bisexual? As well as there being other gay characters..

[RaskolnikovsGarret]

I think it's homophobic to not want gay people in Disney films. Why are children too 'young' to be 'exposed' to homosexuality? What exactly are they being exposed to that their young minds need protecting from????

[Sirona]

I can't summon up any strength of feeling on the subject either way tbh.

I suppose, why not but also don't see the reason she has to be paired up at all.

Somehow missed the shopkeeper in Frozen myself.