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Should Disney have a same sex couple?

389 replies

EveOnline2016 · 06/05/2016 23:24

Just getting views.

This is something I feel like Disney movies should have.

Being in a same sex couple is nothing to hide from children.

OP posts:
SenecaFalls · 10/05/2016 14:15

There are many LGBT Christians Weatherwax, and many Christians who fully support their LGBT friends.

In the US, the Episcopal Church and the Presbyterian Church USA, both very mainstream, solemnize same sex marriages.

SpookyRachel · 10/05/2016 14:24

Randomposter, I would love Idris Elba to be the next Bond, and I'm not a black straight man.

Or do you mean, who could actually want to see a lesbian onscreen, unless they are unfortunately afflicted with ladyism themselves?

VashtaNerada · 10/05/2016 14:31

"Afflicted with ladyism" Grin

FutureGadgetsLab · 10/05/2016 14:36

Rachel Grin

KellyElly · 10/05/2016 15:18

Some of these very children watching Disney films are gay. They are possibly already struggling with feelings with already feel 'other' to many of their peers. I think Disney should normalise gay relationships, because they are after all, normal! It's not like they are going to be showing anything sexual, a kiss at the most, so why not include a representation of all relationships. It's ok for those of you who are worried your children will be corrupted, it's not catching you know!!

WeatherwaxOrOgg · 10/05/2016 15:37

Need a scarf, I'm slightly confused as to how you find hatred in my words - I thought my post was pretty benign. I didn't express hatred, nor do I hold any hatred for gay people. I merely said that as a Christian, I don't support gay relationships. In fact the only mention of feeling hatred came from you hating my view.

Seneca - I agree that many churches accept gay people but it is, in my humble view, contrary to scripture just as women preaching to men is contrary, yet many churches have women preachers. Just because some churches accept it, it doesn't mean that mine should.

Giraffe, of course my religion affects my life and my opinions - why would you think it shouldn't? You'd expect a Muslim to be allowed to have their prayer time or a Jew to eat Kosher meat surely, and to pass these opinions onto their children?

I haven't expressed hatred or anything nasty to anyone - I simply answered the question saying that I wouldn't support a film like this and I wouldn't take my children to watch it. It certainly doesn't mean hating anyone gay. A gay facebook friend added me knowing my views and she doesn't feel threatened by what I believe - in fact she used to be part of the same church as me before she came out and decided it wasn't for her.

Having a belief means many sacrifices have to be made along the way through life, some are easier than others to abide by. We're all entitled to our opinion, even if others don't like it or why would the OP bother to ask the question if all automatically give the sole allowed reply.

WeatherwaxOrOgg · 10/05/2016 15:40

I might have some reply names mixed up - sorry. Vashta, my religion certainly is the only reason for me not supporting gay relationships.

FutureGadgetsLab · 10/05/2016 15:49

my religion certainly is the only reason for me not supporting gay relationships.

What are your reasons?

Why would you not take your kids to see it - that's forcing your beliefs isn't it.

ClaudiaApfelstrudel · 10/05/2016 16:00

I think it's a good idea

NeedAScarfForMyGiraffe · 10/05/2016 16:01

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blaeberry · 10/05/2016 16:26

Need religion (including Christianity) is a lot more complex than you seem to think. There are lots of different groups calling themselves Christians. They all have slightly different beliefs, some of these are minor and the members will happily sit within either group. Others are very significant. One of the biggest differences is the belief in the bible - some groups of Christians believe is it the literal word of God whereas others feel it is just stories and metaphor. These differences have been the cause of wars, not just in European history - look at the Middle East and the wars between different groups of Muslims at the moment.

SenecaFalls · 10/05/2016 16:27

I am happy to say that my church, the Episcopal Church in the US, has consecrated openly gay bishops, including a woman.

oliviaclottedcream · 10/05/2016 16:37

Thing is, if Disney get all in line with the social justice warriors and have a same sex couple then they'd probably make them all serious and have some incredibly noble purpose. I think that'd be a shame as I love the campiness of Disney movies!!!

blaeberry · 10/05/2016 16:39

But seneca that doesn't mean other Christians don't hold a sincere belief that homosexual relationships are a sin. If they do then they believe this puts a barrier between that person and God. It would be very unloving of them to pretend it is ok as they believe the sin would prevent that person from going to heaven and if they didn't know would prevent them from doing anything about it..

LostMySanityCanIBorrowYours · 10/05/2016 17:08

I just wouldn't choose to watch a film like this, or take my children to see it.

By not taking your children to see a film they express an interest in because they feauture openly gay couples you are forcing your views on them.

I abhor any religion that ostracises people based on their sexuality, gender or marital staus, incuding Christianity. There is no place for such views in today's society, imo.

However I don't force that view on my children. My youngest is, as I type, at a Christian Youth group. I fully support her right to choose her own views on religion, although I would not support hate speach under my roof. I draw the line at that.

WeatherwaxOrOgg · 10/05/2016 17:22

People of my religion DON'T accept gay relationships. The young lady I referred to left my religion to pursue her relationship - she hasnt chosen to join a church that does accept this since but she can't hate me or she wouldn't have added me as a friend on Facebook after she left.

Simply saying that having my beliefs IS expressing hate doesn't make it so at all, however much you want to put that tag on it. I can't think of anyone or any group that I hate actually and I certainly don't hate gay people. You don't know me and have no idea who in my life may or may not be gay, including me. Just that my belief based on the Bible that I believe forbids that relationship in the same way that other things are forbidden whether I like it or not.

Of course I tell my children about it, I BELIEVE God to have perfect judgement on every single subject - and I am instructed to bring my children up in this way.

I do have adult children and none of them think they were repressed or incorrectly brought up, regardless of whether or not they agree with me. They definitely wouldn't refer to me as full of hate or intolerant. In fact my oldest still lives with me at 25 despite having a masters degree and working as a programmer in central London.

I hope that answers what was asked but I'll re-read the posts again after the youngest (7) is in bed, God willing.

Just because I don't agree with the popular view though doesn't make me a hater. Certainly not.

oliviaclottedcream · 10/05/2016 17:50

Why would you not take your kids to see it - that's forcing your beliefs isn't it

An analogy for ya - Is a Vegan parent bringing their child up a vegan and saying - they can make their mind up when they're older as to whether they want to eat meat and drink milk or not, doing the same?

FutureGadgetsLab · 10/05/2016 18:05

An analogy for ya - Is a Vegan parent bringing their child up a vegan and saying - they can make their mind up when they're older as to whether they want to eat meat and drink milk or not, doing the same?

Providing they let the child eat none vegan food out of the house, no. If they ban non vegan food until the child is 18 then yes.

So I can understand her not taking the child to see it, but if her kids wanted to go, would she let them see it?

FutureGadgetsLab · 10/05/2016 18:07

Just because I don't agree with the popular view though doesn't make me a hater. Certainly not.

But you're contributing to the higher rates of depression, suicide, anxiety and discrimination LGB people face by saying it should be kept secret.

Carrados · 10/05/2016 18:10

Just a normal gay couple would be amazing!

Not a struggling to come out story or struggling against oppression, just a normal happy gay couple in a Disney storyline.

To dream.

oliviaclottedcream · 10/05/2016 18:30

you're contributing to the higher rates of depression, suicide, anxiety and discrimination LGB people face What utter rubbish!! You wouldnt do as I would - ergo - you're a menace.

FutureGadgetsLab · 10/05/2016 18:32

Olivia no, that's not it at all. It's just a consequence of you supporting LGB people not being visible.

oliviaclottedcream · 10/05/2016 18:51

Yes that is what you are saying. LGB people are flipping visible. There are understandable reasons why one might not wish for their children to be exposed to same sex relations in a Disney movie. Stop picking on people who dont share your views and move on.

Peyia · 10/05/2016 18:55

20 years ago I was a child 'in the closest' of a lesbian mum (if that makes sense!)

It was sooooo isolating, not many gay parents outwardly out like they are now.

My younger years were filled with worry that I wouldn't be accepted. Never had sleep overs because the social norm was 'mum and dad'. I was so lonely but the funny thing was my friends knew even though I hadn't 'come out' and they are still my best friends (all 4 of them) - quality not quantity here.

I fully support the representation of LGBT community in our children's media. It's normal! Why shouldn't gay people be represented in their children's cartoons? It would certainly help my children see their world the same as other children do.

I'm baffled at some of the posters logic of when their children can be 'exposed' to LGBT people.