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Mother sues for £20k for being discouraged from bf while the wave machine was on

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sizeofalentil · 02/05/2016 12:54

Daily Mirror link to the story here.

I'm totally for breastfeeding wherever and whenever, but I wouldn't want to eat my sandwiches in a swimming pool - they are so germy, like a human soup, so not sure a swimming pool with a wave machine on would be the best place to bf. Plus, obviously in this case there was the waves.

I realise that getting out of the water, especially if she had other kids, with a hungry baby would be a massive faff, but wouldn't the wave machine splash the baby and make it choke?

Serious question: AIBU to think this? Is bf in a swimming pool a done thing? Genuinely curious.

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LogicalThinking · 03/05/2016 15:09

I never experienced anything negative when breastfeeding - I fed up to a year twice.
If you breastfed in a different room in your own home, that can only be your choice.
Breastfeeding should be openly accepted pretty much everywhere, but a little bit of common sense please. Sitting in a pool with the wave machine on is not appropriate and it won't keep the baby warm as there won't be a regular level of water.

Kefte123 · 03/05/2016 15:10

"Just becuase you can doesn't mean you should. someone asking you to move when you are breastfeeding in a pool with a wave machine."

You're making assuming based on the article again. And do you think she was breastfeeding her baby with the waves overlapping her head whilst the wave machine was on? Seriously?

There is also no evidence that there is anything wrong with breastfeeding within a pool.

This is not the first. Nor will it be the last. Even ones in a restaurant, or another simple public place, people are very venomous against the woman in question. You only need the comments section on The Daily Mail. Usually say they have to "cover-up" and telling women not to feed in public.

Jasonandyawegunorts · 03/05/2016 15:11

When i was a teenager the wave machine in my local pool used to leave bruises.

Jasonandyawegunorts · 03/05/2016 15:12

You're making assuming based on the article again.

And so are you.

Jasonandyawegunorts · 03/05/2016 15:13

Even ones in a restaurant, or another simple public place, people are very venomous against the woman in question.

Unrelated to this.

Sparklingbrook · 03/05/2016 15:13

Do we know that she was asked to move? Is that fact? Was it more that she was offered a chair?

She could have been breastfeeding the baby with waves lapping over her head. Maybe that was why the pool staff were concerned? Who knows.

Hopefully it's all on CCTV.

MangosteenSoda · 03/05/2016 15:17

Surely, in a world of common sense, there should be only two possibilities in this situation.

  1. Lifeguard thinks baby may be in danger. He/she asks mum to take baby out of the pool and feed in a safer place. Mum complies because lifeguard made risk assessment and lifeguard is in charge of managing risk in the pool.
  1. Lifeguard thinks mum and baby may be more comfortable sitting on a chair, so she/he offers a chair. Mum is fine where she is and says no thank you.
Jasonandyawegunorts · 03/05/2016 15:18

Even ones in a restaurant, or another simple public place, people are very venomous against the woman in question.

At what point does it dawn on a person that if everywhere they go trouble starts, maybe to common factor is them, not where they are or what they are doing.

sparechange · 03/05/2016 15:18

Do we think legal proceedings wouldn't be on-going if the lifeguard merely politely offered a seat next to the pool for her safety?

You don't have to prove the validity of your complaint to bring a civil action.
I can sue you tomorrow for hurting my feelings by giving me a funny look, if I want to. It don't have to actually prove that we've never met to lodge my claim with the court.
Of course I risk not only paying my own legal costs but yours as well, when my case is shown to be groundless.

But don't assume for a minute that there is any legitimacy in her claims just by virtue of her starting a legal process against the lesuire centre.

Although if it is erroneous, I hope they take her for every penny they can for wasting everyone's time

Kefte123 · 03/05/2016 15:20

"You're making assuming based on the article again.

And so are you."

No. I am keeping an open-mind - I haven't stated anything is correct, I will allow those legally dealing with the case to make that decision. They're educated and will have both-sides.

I perhaps seem biased. That's because of the comments of here, which have been nasty and I do not think this is fair.

Furthermore, the articles I have seen have used negative terms, used unflattering photographs and portrayed her quite badly - so my gut-feeling is that this is a sensationalist piece, that I cannot believe. However, you might have better comprehension skills that myself? Was the article balanced?

Lastly. Suggestions from sources have stated this article is untruthful.

But. I'm sure you know best, and that The Mirror is a wonderful source. I will use it in my thesis as a citation. Properly powerful evidence of fact.

4Roseycheeks · 03/05/2016 15:21

This wee soul will do anything for money, it's as simple as that really. A person to be avoided I think, as she would find some reason to sue you too.

If it's not to much of a pun, I just hope that the next time she's at the pool someone pulls the plug on her.

Sparklingbrook · 03/05/2016 15:23

I am quite looking forward to finding out what exactly happened. Hopefully it will all make sense then because at the moment it seems all a bit strange.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 03/05/2016 15:23

Well, there's this to be said for it ...after what happened last time, at least Free to Feed won't be taking her case on Confused

Jasonandyawegunorts · 03/05/2016 15:24

'm sure you know best, and that The Mirror is a wonderful source.

Please give a citation on where you read this or my praise of the mirror as a wonderful source.

You can either do it now as a comment or in the appendix of your thesis. But as i never stated that it was wonderful (only that they never followed the hillsburough lies) you may expect legal action.

Kefte123 · 03/05/2016 15:25

"Even ones in a restaurant, or another simple public place, people are very venomous against the woman in question.

At what point does it dawn on a person that if everywhere they go trouble starts, maybe to common factor is them, not where they are or what they are doing."

That's a very horrible thing to say - especially for women who have been shamed for breastfeeding in public on more than one occasion.

Are you suggesting that they're somehow breastfeeding in a way to cause trouble? Seriously? What do you think all these women shamed for breastfeedings in newspapers are doing - breastfeeding on a table with both boobs out, whilst dancing, and singing "Milkshake" by Kelis.

Jasonandyawegunorts · 03/05/2016 15:26

Are you suggesting that they're somehow breastfeeding in a way to cause trouble? Seriously?

No, not at all.

What i'm suggesting is far worse. That they are horrible in general.

JuxtapositionRecords · 03/05/2016 15:27

Until the case goes to court (is there a date?) then we don't know exactly what happened. I do think the bandwagon has been jumped on. However it's very hard not to when this woman seems to do nothing more than complain about everything publically, labels herself a 'lactivist' therefore implying she is spoiling for a bf fight (backed up by her downright rude comments about formula feeding) and has been in the press before about a similar situation which actually sounded pretty dodgy.

Jasonandyawegunorts · 03/05/2016 15:28

What do you think all these women shamed for breastfeedings in newspapers are doing

Again it's not "All these people", just the one person.

Kefte123 · 03/05/2016 15:29

"I'm sure you know best, and that The Mirror is a wonderful source.

Please give a citation on where you read this or my praise of the mirror as a wonderful source.

You can either do it now as a comment or in the appendix of your thesis. But as i never stated that it was wonderful (only that they never followed the hillsburough lies) you may expect legal action."

If it wasn't a good source, you wouldn't be trying to destroy this woman on the basis of the "facts" presented within the article.

Furthermore, this story was also published in The Sun. But The Mirror also have a past of printing misleading stories based untruths. I remember those hoax photos, for example.

Sparklingbrook · 03/05/2016 15:30

Ah yes the Free to Feed fiasco last year. They would be wise to steer clear of this one.

Jasonandyawegunorts · 03/05/2016 15:31

If it wasn't a good source, you wouldn't be trying to destroy this woman on the basis of the "facts" presented within the article.

I'm not trying to destroy anyone, She's done that herself.

I'm simply on a thread waiting for an answer to my questions about if it's possible to breastfeed in space.

Sparklingbrook · 03/05/2016 15:33

I wouldn't be surprised if this 'story' sinks without trace TBH.

As for the space thing, I have no idea. Grin

Jasonandyawegunorts · 03/05/2016 15:34

Anyone have Tim Peaks number?

Roussette · 03/05/2016 15:44

The thing is Kefte, thinking outside the box as it were... does this woman honestly think she is doing what you have written on here... supporting being able to BF anywhere at all, and making the public aware that it is the norm.

For every one person who thinks "good on her", there will literally be thousands (if not more) who think FFS, perhaps it's best not to BF in a pool, maybe you should have sat in a chair and why the hell do you need £20,000 because you are miffed about it. It does not help. This woman's twitter feed and her sueing for £20,000 has done as much damage as the made up Primark woman.

I'm older, (have young adult DCs) and no way would I have BF my DCs where you can BF now, so things have changed enormously since my time but cases like this set you back years.

Janey50 · 03/05/2016 15:53

It is women like this that give other breast-feeding women a bad name.

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