Mother sues for £20k for being discouraged from bf while the wave machine was on

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Daily Mirror link to the story here.

I'm totally for breastfeeding wherever and whenever, but I wouldn't want to eat my sandwiches in a swimming pool - they are so germy, like a human soup, so not sure a swimming pool with a wave machine on would be the best place to bf. Plus, obviously in this case there was the waves.

I realise that getting out of the water, especially if she had other kids, with a hungry baby would be a massive faff, but wouldn't the wave machine splash the baby and make it choke?

Serious question: AIBU to think this? Is bf in a swimming pool a done thing? Genuinely curious.

I still don't understand why this has only just come to light when whatever happened last May.

It wasn't getting enough attention so someone let the papers know about it.

Kefte, is that you Abby??!!

Ah right Jason.

I had a look at her Twitter. She is very cross about an awful lot of things. Can't be good for breastfeeding being so stressed all the time.

"I used this because it is one that people are most-aware of, and example of how uncaring and twisted newspapers are

And you yourself for using it as a comparision."

Indeed - it cannot be compared to the emotional upset The Sun caused in that example.

However, the woman in questioned is likely under severe emotional distress because of these articles and those on here. So I don't think it's fair to people to throw gas on the bonfire, and increase that upset and distress, dependent on an article by a newspaper (or newspapers) which have a record for being misleading and inflammatory.

Especially going out to pry into her life with such venom. It is unkind and unfair - we do not change the world by being nasty. An eye for an eye, and the world goes blind.

It feels like a witch hunt on here - I can almost see the pitchforks in your hands. Remember, this is a real-person, with real feelings.

Language is rather diverse, and not everyone if affected by a change in language. This can be due to generational gaps or other reasons. However, I can assure you, I have seen it used and used it myself like that.

I am an ex Eng Lang teacher. I am fully aware of use if language thank you.

we do not change the world by being nasty.

We have changed a lot of the world with wars though.-

Especially going out to pry into her life with such venom. It is unkind and unfair - we do not change the world by being nasty. An eye for an eye, and the world goes blind.

It feels like a witch hunt on here - I can almost see the pitchforks in your hands. Remember, this is a real-person, with real feelings.

Complete hyperbole.

Ridiculous

Today 14:12 Floggingmolly

The pool contacted the press to target the mother? Can anyone with even one functioning brain cell actually believe this?

Do you not think this happens? In a prior life my job involved working with gutter press journalists. A common one (which is still taking place) is to get a friendly journo to "expose" a competitors bad service or poor performance- planted by yourselves of course. Lazy journo gets a story, competitor gets bad publicity.

In this case call to a local journo- this local weirdo is saying she's going to sue us for not letting her breastfeed- mother is labelled a hippy loon and backs down quickly from her legal action (whether she had a case or not- as I mentioned before it seems unlikely she does)

Once you know how it works you can see it all the time- whistle blowers particularly are vulnerable to this and there are lots of stories about people taking their employer to court where ref paper "just happens" to know something scandalous about them

There are a lot of bullies out there but I'm pleased for you that you haven't had need to be exposed to them as they really are rotten. They're not called gutter press for nothing

I've got a question i've been wondering, but haven't found a thread to ask it...

Is it possible to breastfeed in space?

A bottle wouldn't work in space would it?

mother is labelled a hippy loon and backs down quickly from her legal action

She is self-labelled.

Breastfeeding
Baby wearing
Cloth bumming
Co sleeping
Home-edding
Vegan
Lactavist

Apparently....

Nobody other than she herself have labelled her.

All this on full public display on Twitter, Instagram & FB - all found after a 30 second Google following reading the article.

There is no witch hunt.
There are no pitchforks.
(Other than the witch hunting and pitchfork waving she does herself on an almost daily basis).

It's not really 'prying' to look at someone's public Twitter page.

I'm sorry if it seems hyperbole to you - but the attacks imo have been OTT and unwarranted, not only one here but elsewhere. Seriously - where do people get-off with attacking people for a story they don't even have the first clue about? Do we think legal proceedings wouldn't be on-going if the lifeguard merely politely offered a seat next to the pool for her safety? I suspect that those with both-sides have a greater insight, and are educated enough to form a unbiased opinion on the matter.

For all we know, she was in the swimming pool up-to her ankles in water.

Another better example of press bias is from an incident involved "hot coffee" at McDonalds, and the person sued for their medical costs. In which a person actually suffered third-degree burns, but people laughed and mocked it, not understanding the full-facts of the incident and how much the person suffered (because the temperature was far beyond what it should have been).

It's just so sad it all this shaming on breastfeeding mothers. I just feel like we're going back in-time. Why can a mother, who was shamed, not fight and campaign to change society?

Will mothers have the courage to stand-up for themselves in public, because if they do they're seen as the "breastfeeding mafia", if they are shamed or asked to move? For example - you're breastfeeding your infant in a public space. Someone comes up to you and requests that you stop and asks you move elsewhere.

You try explain that you're legally entitled to feed anywhere, but they cut you off and again explain you must move. You don't want to cause a scene, so you do move.

You make a formal complaint, but it is dismissed.

And you're too afraid to make a legal challenge or shame them in a newspaper - because people will call you a "media whore", "money grabber" or attack you verbally. It's unfair. It's backwards. And it is antifeminism. Women need to be applauded for standing-up for themselves when they nurse in public. But we never do, you only have to look at newspaper comments sections for that - most usually attack them for not being "modest" enough.

We don't know that she was 'shamed'. Nobody knows the full facts it seems.

It's just so sad it all this shaming on breastfeeding mothers

WTF are you talking about, What attack on breastfeeding mothers?

ou try explain that you're legally entitled to feed anywhere, but they cut you off and again explain you must move.

Just becuase you can doesn't mean you should. someone asking you to move when you are breastfeeding in a pool with a wave machine.

You can breast feed standing in the middle of a road, Will you sue the perosn who tells you to move?

Labels on the first page of these thread alone:

nut case
nutter
halfwit
attention seeking twat
entirely stupid

I can go through the whole thread if you like, suggesting what other derogatory marks have gone one.

Other places, I have also seen suggestions that social services should be involved and that she has mental health problems and bringing into questioning herself as a mother.

Completely lovely. Not witch-hunt-edly at all.

She sounds just lovely.

But that isn't shaming breast feeding mothers is it. It's one, it seems, very silly person breast feeding in a wave pool.

how absolutely pathetic-she was asked to move to the bench not told not to breatfeed-what an arrogant fame hungry woman

whoever takes this case on should be shot-and i hope she loss and has to pay all costs

I don't think she should be sueing but judging by the vitriol on this thread this lady is in for a very tough time and I feel sorry for her.
I only use Twitter to moan about things or as I call it highlight important issues and therefore I am sure I would look like a moaning self righteous twat if people judged me on that

I don't use Instagram but my pages are filled with pictures of my children, lots of them in slings( probably pictures of me breastfeeding or in cloth nappies. I am sure again MN could have a field day painting me as some kind of "loon with no life outside of being a mother"

If you have read "so you have been publicly shamed" by Jon Ronson you may have an insight into what this woman is about to unleash.

It is also daft to compare feeding in a pool to standing in the middle of the M25

Mango moon you have no idea what has happened behind the scenes to make us aware of this woman. It's not about self labelling, you didn't know she was a self labelled nutter last week did you? It's about how this information became public and I am suggesting it would certainly be common for companies to collude with the gutter press to make someone look awful to serve their own means.

You can pretend you know that Mrs vegan lacvitist hippy nutter brought this on herself, but you don't. You don't know whether it was her or the pool company who brought this into the public arena

that she has mental health problems

It's not unreasonable to suggest this, it crossed my mind.

If you must put stuff on social media you might just get opinions if you draw attention to yourself.