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Mother sues for £20k for being discouraged from bf while the wave machine was on

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sizeofalentil · 02/05/2016 12:54

Daily Mirror link to the story here.

I'm totally for breastfeeding wherever and whenever, but I wouldn't want to eat my sandwiches in a swimming pool - they are so germy, like a human soup, so not sure a swimming pool with a wave machine on would be the best place to bf. Plus, obviously in this case there was the waves.

I realise that getting out of the water, especially if she had other kids, with a hungry baby would be a massive faff, but wouldn't the wave machine splash the baby and make it choke?

Serious question: AIBU to think this? Is bf in a swimming pool a done thing? Genuinely curious.

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orchidnap · 03/05/2016 12:48

I'd rather rely on hearsay from the person involved before hearsay from the gutter press tbh.

Jasonandyawegunorts · 03/05/2016 12:50

I'd rather rely on hearsay from the person involved before hearsay from the gutter press tbh.

you still haven't told the other side of events and have avoided the question each time it's been asked?

Asking someone if they want to sit down isn't illegal.

growler20 · 03/05/2016 12:50

I thought no eating by anybody in a swimming pool was the norm. Every public pool I've ever been to says no food or drinks. Plus of course, you and I are funding this ridiculous law suit through our taxes !!!

Divathecat · 03/05/2016 12:51

MrsMonkeyHanger I really hope that this doesn't get court, if she is on the receiving end of everything then surely she has brought this onto herself.

Kefte123 · 03/05/2016 12:51

In regards to her Twitter feed - I fully agree with her words and actions 100%. Please visit BabyMilk Action if you do not understand the implications of newborn formula milk being put on offer - it is in violation of 'The International Code of Marketing of Breast-milk Substitutes'. This protects all mothers.

Furthermore - I am tired as a breastfeeding mother for society to marginalizing breastfeeding mothers. We have to be 'modest' and 'cover-up'. I have never encountered more harassment and ill-words in my life than from people about me breastfeeding - and I say this as a mother who has also bottle-fed her other child.

People campaign for all-sorts of causes - from SIDs to various disorders. Why is it bad to promote or campaign for breastfeeding? Why is it so shameful or distasteful to be pro-breastfeeding? To make sure breastfeeding is presented as the biological normal way- instead of the 'best' thing that only a few select mothers can do and some anti-feminism modesty spooned-in.

I know of several mothers that have been asked to move, cover-up or had distasteful comments. It needs to stop. And I think if people are aware that if they shame a breastfeeding mother, then they should know it is not acceptable and will have ramifications. Why should we attack mothers who choose to fight when people shame them - and why do we judge them so harshly when they do, calling them "whores" ect? That is sexist and cruel, shaming women is not acceptable.

Moreover, I am vegan and go to McDonalds. Believe it or not, my partner isn't vegan and nor are my children - if we're driving long-distance we sometimes nip in there, I usually get a small bag of fries or a side-salad.

There is also the speculation of truth. Several newspapers have printed this article - newspapers inflame and lie - look at Hillsborough as a much more major example. I very much doubt that there would be any legal action, had the pool only been acting for her safety. How do you know the woman was in the pool when the wave-machine came on? Or in a place where it was unsafe, she may have been in very shallow water?

And people are not sterile, and breastmilk will get in the water from a lactating mother regardless if she feeds or not. I allow my children to swim under water and inadvertently swallow pool water - pool water is not harmful or dirty, bacteria (especially harmful bacteria like coliform bacteria) are kept under-control. It is safe.

Jasonandyawegunorts · 03/05/2016 12:54

look at Hillsborough as a much more major example.

Using that example i'd point out the mirror actually Didn't print the rioting at Hillsborough story, they've printed this.

It's very sick to use that as an example at all to be honest.

Jasonandyawegunorts · 03/05/2016 12:55

extremeism is always dangerous.

Buckinbronco · 03/05/2016 12:56

You make some good points tbh kefte and I am starting to question whether I think she's really in the wrong or just assume so because she looks like a dirty band wagon jumping hippy who has taken far too many breastfeeding pictures for public consumption, and those people induce immediate annoyance in lots of us

MrsMonkeyHanger · 03/05/2016 12:56

Jasonandawegunorts - It appears you were there. Will you be testifying in court? If so I think you might find your testimony is now inadmissable.

Jasonandyawegunorts · 03/05/2016 12:58

It appears you were there. Will you be testifying in court? If so I think you might find your testimony is now inadmissable.

I will be representing the swimming pool in this case. I've watched my cousin vinnie, judge rinder and a few episodes of law and order so i've got the basics down.

CountessOfStrathearn · 03/05/2016 12:58

"I have never encountered more harassment and ill-words in my life than from people about me breastfeeding"

Yet so many of us have also breastfed in all sorts of places and have never come across any harassment or ill words...

Jasonandyawegunorts · 03/05/2016 13:00

Also got my copy of wind in the willows at the ready, so i can badger the witnesses.

Littlemisslovesspiders · 03/05/2016 13:02

Sorry as soon as you bring Hillsborough into it you lose any point you may have had.

unimagmative13 · 03/05/2016 13:06

Nothing wrong with being pro breasfeeding, it's the way they bash women who use formula. I couldn't BF for medical reasons and I have a close friend who never tried, she didn't want to.

I've had women come up to me in public and ask why I'm not breasfeeding. I've had women tell me I'm sacrificing BF benefits in favour of a fuller baby.

Spend your time encouraging and education - there's no need to formula bash mother who are currently using formula - I can't turn back the clock.

Buckinbronco · 03/05/2016 13:07

She's only pointing out newspapers lie? Hillsborough being the most recent and public example

unimagmative13 · 03/05/2016 13:08

Also to add- I recently deleted a BF group from FB as a women posted that her friend failed at BF and consequently ended up with breast cancer. If she had BF this wouldn't have happened.

It's these people I'm oppose to.

Jasonandyawegunorts · 03/05/2016 13:10

She's only pointing out newspapers lie? Hillsborough being the most recent and public example

No it's neither the most recent or public example. there is no need to bring it up in a thread about a swimming pool. The exmaple has nothing in common with a police cover up.

NeedACleverNN · 03/05/2016 13:10

There are even people on here who claim if you didn't breast feed it was because you didn't try hard enough.

Littlemisslovesspiders · 03/05/2016 13:11

She's only pointing out newspapers lie?

Fully aware they lie. I was at Hillsborough.

That doesn't compare to someone suing a pool for 20k over breastfeeding.

and that all the supporting posters of the mother only have a couple of posts each

Buckinbronco · 03/05/2016 13:17

No one is claiming it compares, come on now Grin it was just an example.

CoolforKittyCats · 03/05/2016 13:19

it was just an example.

A rubbish one.

Jasonandyawegunorts · 03/05/2016 13:21

No one is claiming it compares, come on now it was just an example

Disgusting. You know 96 men women and children died?

Buckinbronco · 03/05/2016 13:25

What? Why are you turning this into a debate about hillsborough? You knew it was an example, trying to guilt trip the poster, dismiss what she was actually saying with this distraction is just really poor debate.

Jasonandyawegunorts · 03/05/2016 13:26
Hmm
MangoMoon · 03/05/2016 13:31

*Orchidnap,

The wave machine wasn't on*
You know this to be true how?
Hearsay?*
*
Blindly believe the Daily Fail
WTF do the Fail have to do with this?
Shit paper, yes, but not quoted on this thread.
If this is how reliable your recall is, then I am likely to take everything else you say with a large pinch of salt (wave machine....?)

And as for the poster comparing this woman being asked if she wanted a seat to Hillsborough and 27 years of lies and police & govt cover up - just Shock

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