To think that junior doctors shouldn't strike

[CheeseAndPizza]

They're fucking PROFFESSIONALS, and they are endangering people's health because they want a fucking PAY RISE!! Am I unreasonable to think that if they respected people's health more, then people would respect THEM more and maybe pay them more!! I mean, no emergency cover? What are you supposed to do if you have an appt booked for that day? Wait another six weeks?? I think the junior doctors really need to buck their ideas up....

[Missdread]

Fully behind the doctors. Along with their new contract, this government are merrily chipping away at the pay and conditions of our Armed Forces personnel, knowing that they can do sweet bugger all about it. They can't strike, they can't grumble, they can just leave IF their terms of service allow. It's crap and the forces are haemorrhaging people in important trades left, right and centre. They can't fulfill roles because they haven't got the people. DC demands they go and start up something in a far flung land and guess what? There are NO TROOPS left because he's hacked them all off!!! This is just to illustrate that it's not just Jeremy who's a c**t but all of the rest of them too!!!!

[newmumwithquestions]

I'm assuming that the OP was making some wierd misguided sence of humour joke? I mean, no-one is actually that stupid are they?

[harridan50]

They are fighting to save the nhs which will cease to exist in its current form in our lifetime. The nhs is being privatised by the backdoor as more and more services are being outsourced.Staff at all levels are demoralised and disillusioned. Many nurses will retire in the next 10 years and there are not enough new qualified staff to replace them......eventually reality will bite for the general public. An emergency service and privatisation within 25 years is the future

[Slothlikesundays]

Doesn't sound like you actually did any research before you typed. Or even read an article on the subject properly.

[PoppieD]

OP Have my first and FOTTFSOFATFOSM please. I assume you do not had any discussion with any healthcare professionals to get their view on this??

[Littleallovertheshop]

This thread has restored my faith in humanity.

Have a OP

[CaptainHammer]

ODFOD

[AristotlesTrousers]

from me too.

[Sallystyle]

FFS

I was the only one at work yesterday without an 'I support Junior Doctors' badge. Not because I don't support them but because they had all gone by the time I got in.

Was heartening to see all the consultants, nurses, therapists and HCA's wearing them.

[StaggeringOn]

Birchyboo 'Also it isn't the junior doctors who don't work weekends. It's the consultants - junior doctors are the ones who work all hours at the weekend covering.'
Don't know why my DH has been doing 1 in 3 weekends as a consultant for last 20+ years!

[smilingthroughgrittedteeth]

You can have my first ever I didn't actually think anyone believed the government or media spin on the strikes but I obviously gave people like the op to much credit

[Thisismyalias]

I am cringing reading your op. Go read a few balanced articles as to why junior doctors are striking.

And for what it's worth I am waiting for a procedure on my back to relieve the excruciating pain I am in every day. It's been moved because of the strike, and guess what I am ok with that because the bigger picture is so much more important.

[VioletTea]

from me too. Sorry but you're talking out of your bottom.

[BankWadger]

Go home Jeremy. YABVVVVVVVVU and a giant turd to bot.

[CountessOfStrathearn]

birchygoo said, "Also it isn't the junior doctors who don't work weekends. It's the consultants..."

At most, 1% of consultants have opted out of weekends.

The rest do plenty of weekends/nights/Christmas!

[BankWadger]

Boot, too boot.

[HeffalumpHistory]

Are you for real????? Ffs!!

[Sallystyle]

It was a really nice atmosphere at work, there was a sense of solidarity.

The patients were very supportive and letting us know they were fully supporting the doctors.

I have yet to meet anyone educated on the matter who doesn't support them.

[FatPaul]

Stop being a knob OP.

[lampygirl]

Maybe we should just charge for stuff on the NHS, along the lines of the prescription charge, a nominal fee for GP/walk in/Outpatient things like X-ray or physio. If it funds the extra staff needed to improve the service for all. I'd pay £20 a time to be able to have my current NHS physio on a Saturday afternoon rather than having to take a day off work due to the appointment slots available (10-4) and the commute which if I was hourly paid would lose me more than a nominal fee so overall in still up and the service is a little bit better off.

[notyourmummy]

Sadly if the new contract is imposed, even more doctors (and nurses and other health professionals) will bugger off abroad. We already struggle to recruit doctors to key specialities (a&e for example, has a very poor recruitment rate for trainees). The sacrifices of lack of family time, rotas that totally screw up your bodyclock and the abuse suffered at the hands of the patients you're trying to help more than necessitate the wages they earn.
OP

[MissTurnstiles]

This thread is deeply heartening.

[thecitydoc]

I can't believe there are still people who think that this is about pay. The industrial is NOT about pay - it is about the hours that they will be expected to work that will make them unsafe to practice. The 30% pay cuts that they will face in a few years do not help but it is about patient safety. My son is a junior Dr in Scotland, so not affected, but he does 13 hours shifts, 90 hour weeks and at the end of a shift he is knackered. He has on a number of occasions phoned me to go and bring him back to his flat as he feels unsafe to drive (there was a case in Scotland a few years ago when a junior Dr fell asleep at the wheel after a long night shift and was killed) there has been days when he has had no break (no toilet, no food no drink) for 10 hours - a patient would on a double drip and a catheter in such circumstances. They have to win to protect all patients - if they lose then Hunt will go after the consultants and then patients will suffer as there are lots of decisions on treatment that can only be taken by consultants.

[MrsBosh]

Suggest you do your research, OP.

Presume you yourself regularly work 60h weeks with horrible shift changes, changing jobs every few months?

It's really not about money and being greedy. It's about Mr Hunt trying to railroad an unsafe contract.