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To call police on neighbours

155 replies

mrgrouper · 23/04/2016 10:03

I have deliberately posted here to get the most blunt and candid responses. I could have posted on NM and had "there, there, poor you" responses, but I want people to be frank and am aware AIBU posters "tells it like it is".
We all moved into new build properties at the end of last year. Until 4 weeks ago had never spoken to these neighbours (have spoken to everyone else on the street, but these people keep themselves to themselves and I have no issue with that).
Anyway it all kicked off 4 weeks ago. My son aged 4 was on his bike and he went on what I mistakenly thought was a communal path. The lady of the house came flying out effing and blinding and threatening me with the police. I told her she was welcome to call the police, but as there was no crime committed it is time wasting. She then approached my son's bike and rammed him backwards with him on it, which scared him.
I fully admit calling her a moron at this stage, but when she put her hands on my son's bike I saw red.
I reported the antisocial behaviour to the HA on the Monday. They were told not to contact me after that and they asked me not to contact her, which I was happy to comply with.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing and with hindsight I should not have reported it, because this has caused the behaviour to escalate. They have reacted by sending neighbours derogatory and unwarranted messages about me, and encouraging them to report me to get me evicted. My neighbours kept screen shots of this BS. My car has been keyed and a load of what I think is lime has been thrown over the dividing wall between our gardens, killing my grass. The man of the house has shouted abusive comments to my son who is only 4 and nasty notes have been put through my letter box.
I am getting CCTV put up next week so if there is any more vandalism of my property I have proof.
Can anyone advise me how to handle this? Citizen's advice recommend I report all of this crap to the police, however this may cause things to escalate further.
All I want is a quiet life.

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MadamDeathstare · 24/04/2016 17:06

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mrgrouper · 24/04/2016 17:09

I am never going to call them morons again. As a disabled person I hate disability discrimination and had no clue that this term derived from a term used against intellectually impaired kids.
From now on I will call them scum. Still an offensive term but not disablist.

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Pipbin · 24/04/2016 17:10

You could call them fucking twats.

mrgrouper · 24/04/2016 17:16

or call the woman fugly fucking twatface

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smokeybandit · 24/04/2016 17:17

The HA are in charge of deciding they would like an eviction. If you are on a 1 year probation or introductory tenancy then yes is it very easy, it would go to a court for a judge to ok an eviction warrant BUT he would have very little power in the matter with an intro tenancy. There is little to no appeal process with that as that's the whole reason those probation periods exist. But if you have your housing manager on side you stand a good chance. It's not an automatic thing that they will evict someone because of ASB, they still have to decide to do it and take the appropriate actions.

mrgrouper · 24/04/2016 17:19

is the housing officer the person who decides who gets evicted? I hope so as she is on my side atm

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smokeybandit · 24/04/2016 17:22

It will be their decision first if they are the one dealing with it as they will have to decide what gets escalated. Basically it starts with the person getting the most hassle from it, which will be your housing officer. If they wanted someone evicted they would have to go through their manager and build a case against you/neighbour and take it from there. So long as they're on side and you cooperate with them I wouldn't worry too much in that sense.

MintyChapstick · 24/04/2016 17:23

You know what, I didnt know the term 'moron' was offensive either and in the same situation as the OP I cant say that I wouldn't have said something similar in the heat of the moment.

I know this is AIBU, but the level of victim blaming on hre is disgusting. She's lost you're sympathy because she said a word that she didn't know was a offensive? Get a sodding grip!

mrgrouper · 24/04/2016 17:24

I get on really well with her. She is absolutely fuming with these people and is worried they may affect my mental health. I am stable atm but been sectioned twice in the past.

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wannabestressfree · 24/04/2016 17:34

If nothing else has happened I would just
A. Put the cameras up.
B..put a sign up.
C. Speak to your housing officer and make a statement.
D. Not let a 4 year old out on his own. He is too young and in a vulnerable position.
E. See what happens. It may be this is an end to it.

Ripeberry · 24/04/2016 17:35

Get as much evidence as you can. They are bullies, plain and simple. No one should be physically touching a young child and certainly not in front of the parents! They hardly know you, but still did it anyway. I wonder why they moved into your area. Maybe they fought with the previous neigbours?
Keep your cool and report your findings to the police. These people will never negotiate.
With luck, they will be the ones to leave!

mrgrouper · 24/04/2016 17:38

well said wannabestressfree I am really hoping this all gets sorted at mediation and then we can all live peacefully (and if that does not happen I will catch them with my cameras)

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mrgrouper · 24/04/2016 17:57

Ripeberry by pure coincidence the woman who lived 2 doors down from them is on my other side and thus now also living 2 doors down from them.
They had a ding dong when her 17 year old daughter was outside her house and the scummy woman opened the window and called her a "fat slag". The 17 year old told her mum (my other neighbour) and she kicked the scummy woman's back gate round and threatened to strangle her, so scummy woman called police on her. To be fair my other neighbour did overreact (as I did also with the word moron) but no 17 year old should be called a "fat slag".

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oblada · 24/04/2016 18:17

You can report it of course. Will it help in the long term? Maybe in the very long term. Are you able to cope in the meanwhile? Do you have the support you need? And not the virtual MN support, real one. Do you want to waste the next couple of years of you and your kid? Will be really be worth it? The way you are pushed to react - does that reflect the value you want to instill into your kid? If not then I would suggest to give mediation a real good go before escalating it further. My view. And I'm a stubborn fighter. But also a realist.

oblada · 24/04/2016 18:18

Try and be the bigger person. Stop wasting energy on them. Maybe it will work. Maybe it won't. It's it's worth a try.

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mrgrouper · 24/04/2016 19:48

well it genuinely happened. My dog approached him and he sort of winced so I asked him do you not like dogs and he said they are mutts to me and they stink. It was said in a jokey fashion and I do not think he was trying to be nasty.

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Atenco · 24/04/2016 20:22

So sorry all this is happening to you, but it sounds like you have a very good case, especially as this scum seems to do a good job of alienating the other neighbours too. I too would have said something foul if anyone laid a finger on a four-year-old in front of me and I do not see much of a problem with the word "moron" actually, because it is no longer used for SEN people, according to my dictionary and personally I have never heard it used for referring to SEN people, I also cannot see what is insulting about people with learning difficulties, and the last thing I would want to do is offend anyone with a disability.

MaddyHatter · 24/04/2016 20:37

deleted?

What a crock of fucking shit, i was not troll hunting! Are we not even allowed to say we don't believe something happened any more?

What absolute bull shit.

mrgrouper · 24/04/2016 20:45

I do not mind you saying you do not believe it, everyone is entitled to their opinions. Like I said, he was joking when he said it.
I did not report your post.

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OurBlanche · 25/04/2016 11:59

I did... I have no issue saying so.

I reported the whole thread as I wasn't sure about how it was going, at that point... So I did what they ask, I reported rather than leap to a conclusion... didn't expect to be deleted though!

Weirder, far nastier, things happen and posts remain. Deleting because some one is questioning what a poster has said, and to be honest it did sound odd the way you first wrote it, is, in my opinion, overly sensitive. I wonder why didn't it merit the usual 'Play Nicely or Else' message?

summerdreams · 25/04/2016 12:12

Definately report it and im sorry your going through this op.

mrgrouper · 25/04/2016 13:24

Well I am going to report this post that I am making and ask for the thread to be removed.
I am sorry you feel that I "sound odd". Having lived my entire life on the autistic spectrum "odd" is a word I hear a lot, along with "weird, strange" etc.
I do not need it pointing out to me any more than an obese person needs to be called fatty. They are probably already aware they are overweight and pointing it out does not help them.
Anyhow I have been to see my doctor who feels my mental health is at risk staying here so I am offski. Looking at Zoopla properties to rent now and then I am leaving when I find somewhere.

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