Like a bloody girl

[Shallowstreams]

Name changed for this.

I'm on another boards' mums' forum where I'm currently being had at go at because I took offence at thread where numerous posters were talking about their husbands behaving like a girl i.e. being pathetic. An example 'he's built like a brick shithouse but is like a big girl with spiders'.

I pointed out why this isn't a good thing and have been told 'it's just a turn of phrase', 'stop being so serious', 'don't take it out of context (??), and 'just chill'

Am I going insane? This isn't okay to do is it??

There's nothing wrong with crying.
There's nothing wrong with crying at work either.

thereal I love it too.

If you haven't seen the 'Like A Girl' video, it's worth a watch:

It's idiotic. My daughter loves spiders and earthworms and her minder's son panicks when he sees them.
Reminds me of this morning as she was watching Boomerang because she got up really early and ads were running: Mum, I really love Iron Man and Captain America. And I HATE Elsa.

X-post with Greys, apologies!

However, I do tell my boys "to stop being a girl and stop crying". What's wrong with that? I even tell my girls that, they think it's funny.

Aww and you are SO VERY proud of this! Can you REALLY not see what's wrong with this? How about if you think VERY hard about it?

No?

Just as well children with parents who have minds like this are also exposed to so many other influences in their life too.

lovely the problem is that our kids mix with those whose parents teach them sexism day in day out.

The only place my DD gets told not to do things because she is a girl is when she mixes with other children at nursery or at the swimming pools etc.

sexisms catches worse than nits.

Apart from anything else, it perpetuates the myth that men should 'manly' and therefore not afraid of spiders. Utter cock as far as I'm concerned!

No SamanthaBrique it actually rhymes with Waby Renter!

The forum really depresses me but I can't stop going back because it astounds me too!!

Keep training her up Ice

My 2 are 8 & 4 now and they laugh at people who say "girls this" "boys that" type thing. They look at them like they are mad/ignorant/stupid/confused etc.
It's brilliant to see.

VestalVirgin
If someone starts sobbing in front of a client because they can't win an argument and makes us loose a deal, then no, it's not very productive and that person shouldn't be there.

Instead of dismissing my kids by telling them they are completely similar and they should get on with life, I prefer to recognise their difference and help them accept who they are, and how to use their different skills, strengths and weaknesses.

You do know that it's ok for a boy to kick a ball whilst his sister does some painting, and that it doesn't mean he will be a bullish-math-lover-rapist whilst she will end up being a non-educated victim?

Seriously, some of the views here are utterly baffling.

I also actually heard my best friend who is a modern professional woman saying to her little boy 'don't act like a girl' she laughed it off and said it was a joke and that she only said as he hates it but I was shocked

her lovely little boy at 10 years old now thinks that 'being a girl' is an insult and hates to be told it

It's like reading the DM online Shallow

You THINK you need that bizarre car crash journo fuckwittery in your life, (I'm only looking at the pictures etc) and you don't. When its gone it's gone & life improves & that is completely in your power.

Move away from the ignorant sexists and improve your daily life.

Simple.

catinthecradle you thought process is very confusing.

• You think the sexes are fundamentally different and you should tell your children that so they behave accordingly

• you believe women often cry in the workplace

• you believe crying in the workplace is an unprofessional thing

Do you therefore actually believe women are less professional than men and should be treated as such?

Because according to your view they can't change their behaviour?

sexisms catches worse than nits.

Yep, someone should invent a shampoo against it!

there really is no accounting for the Willfully Ignorant.

I'm crying 'like a girl' at work right now, having just watched that video!!

lovelyfriend I also have a ridiculous notion that I can 'help' these women by changing their outlook and demanding more from their relationships....I feel like Pfeiffer in that film. But I'm failing and they hate me.

you could introduce them to Cat?

Cat recognise their differences because they are individual people. Crying in an important meeting to finalise a deal with a client is inappropriate for both men and women. Members of a close team crying with happiness or sadness after receiving the outcome of something important ( I am thinking an Ofsted report) I have seen both men and women crying in this situation.

That advert makes me teary every time. Bloody "Always"!

In imagining women weeping when trying to finalise important client deals in offices all up and down the country.....

the crying comment was about the expression "crying like a girl", I've never seen men cry at work, so all I was trying to say is that this sentence comes from somewhere.

I love the hypocrisy of it all

Men and women are equal
BUT women couldn't possibly compete in sport against boys because they are not so equal. I am still waiting to see a woman racing against a man. Run like a girl and win the race, what, against other men? Why don't we see a mixed boxing match, they are based on weight?
Aptitude tests are different depending on gender? No-one is complaining against that.
It's ok to push back another boy, but you must never raise your hand against a woman?
A man should offer his seat to a woman?
You both want children, but only one of you will have to stop working for around 6 months (some pregnancies and births are harder than others), equal?

I bet if a boy dares slapping your little girl, you will be the first one to scream against the abuse!

I fucking hate this.

My Dd kick boxes. She spars older boys and wins. She does hit like a girl or boy. She hits like she hits. She brilliant at it. Not for a girl. She is just good at it.

I have seen men and women cry at work and at kicking competitions. So that's bollocks.

I am so fed up of 'like a girl' being used in a derogatory manner.

I also have a boy and don't think it healthy for him to hear crying or being gentle is being like a girl. As though it's not something that's ok. It's says girls are lesser people and boys can't cry or be gentle without being less than other boys/men.

It's bullshit.

And to be honest dh does at least 50% of house work and child care. If he couldn't manage to do that I wouldn't have married him. Why do some women seem to think men aren't capable of keeping house? Do they say that to make themselves feel better? Poor men aren't capable so need a wife to keep them going? Fuck that?

It's not that fucking hard that a man can't get his head round it. Again it's not an attitude that's good for men or women.