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To wonder why nursery needs to see ds's red book?

114 replies

Wanderingwondering · 14/04/2016 18:03

Message from nursery today that according to ofsted guidelines they NEED to see he children's red books.
This is apparently so they can 'ensure your child's needs are fully met and to ensure that your child has the best possible chance of meeting their full potential'

I've got nothing to hide but there is quite a lot of my personal information in there-breastfeeding issues etc and I'm not sure I want to share that level of information!

Has anyone else had this request?

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StealthPolarBear · 14/04/2016 18:05

Suspecy it's to check on immunisation status.

TimeOfGlass · 14/04/2016 18:06

We had this when DS1 started school.

figginz · 14/04/2016 18:06

I offered mine up but was told they didn't need it. They just needed NHS number and birth certificate.

SocksRock · 14/04/2016 18:06

Just say you can't find it if you don't want to show them.

BloodyDogHairs · 14/04/2016 18:06

The only thing in my dc's red book is the date of the jags and the early stages of getting weighed so if my nursery asked me it would be pointless them even looking at it.

Xmasbaby11 · 14/04/2016 18:07

To check immunisations I'd guess. We had to do this too.

SocksRock · 14/04/2016 18:07

And I wouldn't either, there's a fair amount of stuff in there about PND for me, which is bugger all to do with school or nursery. It's my private information

Onsera3 · 14/04/2016 18:07

No but they did give us some developmental thing that they said was to be added to the Red Book.

I agree wouldn't want them looking at ours. It's like a medical record.

Jackie0 · 14/04/2016 18:08

They need to ?
Like legally ? Haha I really doubt it.
Can you photocopy evidence of vaccines ?
I'd be annoyed too, nothing is private anymore

HeartShapedBox · 14/04/2016 18:08

Nope, none of mine have ever had to use their red books in nursery.

I'd tell them no, it's a medical record and none of their business.

Wanderingwondering · 14/04/2016 18:10

Wrt to vaccinations, the last time I took him for some I forgot the book anyway and although I said I'd bring it in asap they said it didn't matter as it would be on their record. So that wouldn't be of any use to nursery

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ElderlyKoreanLady · 14/04/2016 18:11

Nope, mine have never seen ours and OFSTED have just done an inspection and rated them outstanding so they obviously didn't need it.

I'd respond with a quick email saying there's a lot of personal information in there and asking specifically which information they need to see.

Wanderingwondering · 14/04/2016 18:17

Yes thanks elderlykoreanlady, I will do that. They are a fantastic nursery and I can't fault the experience they provide for ds but they can be very jobsworth y about certain things.

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user5512343212 · 14/04/2016 18:17

I have been working in pre-schools and day nurseries for over 10 years, we have never asked to see red books and is defiantly not an ofsted requirement.

Amy214 · 14/04/2016 18:19

I wouldnt either mine has a lot of information of how my birth was and all the problems that happened. If they wanted to see when she got her vaccinations i would offer to photocopy the page and if they still wanted to see it i would say no. Dds playgroup havent asked to see hers but only wanted to know what vaccines she had.

fiorentina · 14/04/2016 18:19

As part of the 28 month check with the health visitor my DDs nursery also gave us a report that was supposed to go in the red book to tie together measurement of developmental milestones. Could it be that. It's a new thing. I didn't take it in, I had forgotten it..

WanderingTrolley1 · 14/04/2016 18:21

My 2 DC go to nursery and have never had to produce red book.

insancerre · 14/04/2016 18:22

Its to do with the new integrated review that nurseries are now doing with health visitors and is a new version of the 2 year check
Its also about making sure that children who need early intervention are identified and prioritised
At my nursery we ask for lots of information such as
NHS numbers
Parents NI numbers and dates of birth
We also take copies of birth certificates and utility bills and ask for details of your health visitor and immunisations
Is the red book any different?

LillyBugg · 14/04/2016 18:22

I've never had to do this for nursery. I provided immunisation details but not the actual book. Seems a bit intrusive.

TeenAndTween · 14/04/2016 18:24

Why is my DD2's 'red book' blue?

Wanderingwondering · 14/04/2016 18:25

It is very different as for the first few years it's as much a record of the mother's health as the child's-l fail to see how details of my mastitis will help ds achieve his full potential 3.5 years on!

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Wanderingwondering · 14/04/2016 18:25

That was to insancerre btw

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Bishybishybarnabee · 14/04/2016 18:29

Ours asked us to bring it to our registration meeting, but it was only the immunisation record page that they looked at.

insancerre · 14/04/2016 18:30

Working with children with additional needs we sometimes find that they were late meeting milestones or were premature or had difficult births
Its about getting the whole picture and filling in the gaps
Also the more you know about a child and their family, the better you can meet their needs

Roomba · 14/04/2016 18:30

DS2's has loads of stuff in showing that we were kept in for three days after he was born, to check whether he had any signs of neonatal drug withdrawal! What on earth does that look like, to someone medically untrained, who has no idea of the circumstances? (He was absolutely fine, btw, and the medication was perfectly legal, prescribed by a consultant and unavoidable) I didn't have to show his red book to nursery though, just gave them his NHS no. I hope school is the same or I may have to 'lose' the red book...

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