In thinking that 4 billion owing in child support is a national disgrace?

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Scandalous....

Make the Petition section on here something you visit regularly.

Pissssssseeddddd off. Where you there? No. So stop talking bollocks. I know what he was forced to pay, and the lies that were told so he was forced to pay more. But I guess you will still say it's fair.

I know tbh he would of been paying a lot more if they were together when your split your making a saving as your paying so much a month not half of everything your child needs

If my ex actually paid I would be entitled to £120 a month my sons school dinners are 40 plus his tutor is 200 so that wouldn't even cover those two things

How do these fucking men think we eat

Sleeping in a van he has no overheads bar this maintence He sleeps in a van it effects him if she ever was homeless it would effect her daughter

Your clearly upset but you know what if you're the child involved, you weren't there either.
My father didn't pay a penny and child support was virtually impossible to enforce in the 1980's so it doesn't ring true with my experience then as a child nor now as a parent.

How the hell do you no what she has had to do without or had to do for her child

I know anyone who actually gets any money out of there ex from CS needs a badge tbh it shows how shit you are if the mother of your child even needs to ring them in the first instance you should offer

I say again most men go from paying the majority of there wage towards there family and there children to £100-200 a month for there children

Seems like a saving to me

Women need to take a stand on this. I would not date a man screwing his own children in this way but am blown away by how many girls not only stand by but actively encourage

Agreed. Without wishing to divert responsibility from deadbeat dads, it seems that there's a ruinous tendency to view a baby as the only proper 'ratification' of a new relationship, without any regard for the existing children.

Ffs catsvworld.

I saw all the fucking luxuries they had. All the things we went without but they could have without even thinking.

I heard the stories they told.

I heard the venom filled spite when she told him she was going to taking for every penny he had.

For a fair equitable share there wouldn't have been a problem- but it was far from fair.

But it seems you think he was a cockwomble that deserved to be taken to the cleaners. Well bully for you.

Catsvworld.

I know anyone who actually gets any money out of there ex from CS needs a badge tbh it shows how shit you are if the mother of your child even needs to ring them in the first instance you should offer

So the dad that does give a large proportion of his wages but still gets hounded for more is a shit dad?

Oh behave 1 - The wrongs seem to have righted themselves, father has the love of his child in adulthood and mother just has money.

They should lose parental rights if they're not going to support their children for a start! It's ridiculous that they can be on the birth certificate and have various rights over the children's lives but refuse to financially support them.

I like the idea that child maintenance owed should accumulate as a debt that never goes away. So even if the child it is owed to reaches 18 they should still be able to claim it from the NRP. Take it out of the NRP's pension if necessary. Treated as a debt it could affect their ability to get a mortgage and all sorts.

I do think there needs to be a cultural shift. My friend married a man with a child from a previous relationship. He earned very little but still paid the required maintenance. My friend used to moan that the mother of his child didn't need the money at all because she had remarried a man who was well off. It just amazed me that she didn't see how important it is that the NRP contributes financially.

It apparently never goes away . The problem is the complete lack of enforcement.

Pissssssedddofffff.

Not really. Mum poisoned the kids and told him what a deadbeat he was. He is one of the nicest, gentlest most caring men I know.

It should be about paying what is fair to both parties. And that sometimes means the mother putting more in than the father - and it means the mother cutting her cloth to suit as well as the father.

I get the feeling that no matter what is said, the mother can never be wrong, manipulative, or just plain fucking greedy. If you honestly think there aren't mothers out there that will get the father of their children to pay more so they can have the luxuries in life and leave their ex to struggle then I am sorry but you are deluded.

Thank-you everyone for your continuing contributions.

I am going to be offline this weekend so please keep debating the issue and offering your support where you feel able.

Luxuries in life - give me strength - get the father to pay more - anything is little short of a miracle in most cases !!!!!

CM refusers should not be being able to claim tax credits or child benefit for subsequent children.

Just as I thought pisssssedofffff

You can't accept that a case can exist where the father pays his way and still gets hounded for more while the mother lives the life of Riley. You haven't once accepted he was willing to pay a large proportion of his income to his ex but she just wanted more.

Yes, she did have the luxuries in life she wanted partially by making sure he paid more than his fair share. But I guess that even if he paid 100% of the children's upbringing that wouldn't be enough

Lemonblast. I can see where you are coming from but why should that child suffer poverty? It's not its fault the father won't pay for his other children.

I dont believe it because I know how it's virtually impossible to enforce even if court awarded .... So if he paid and paid more than he should have then he's an idiot.

why shouldn't ex wives have 'the luxuries of life' - like food ?

Seriously when my ex left he swore he would support me and the kids so that we didn't feel the shift too much (He's loaded I am not) - why should OUR children miss out on the life they would have had just because he couldn't keep his cock in his pants (because selfishly I have a (planned and much wanted) 3rd child who was still a tiny BF non sleeping baby)

Luxuries - dfod - we don't have to live on the bread line to be worthy!

I don't agree with making it legally enforceable simply because this government will make it a reason to add maintenance to means testing - meaning we will lose out of tax credits but they will still find ways to not pay - or it will drag through the courts for years while we struggle.

People who don't pay are shit but many lone parents rely on supplemental benefits to survive

If they know there's no child benefit or tax credits coming, the new girlfriend just won't put him on the birth certificate

Yes Pissssdddoffffff. Because there was no way she could lie in court to get what she wanted. But as I said - you won't accept it either way. Well good on you - glad to see you can't see that things work both ways. I guess you will be saying guys can't be victims of domestic violence next.......

This is so true....

She couldn't lie in court to say he earns more than he did and him not be able to quickly prove her wrong which is the only way she would have been awarded more Maintence. The court doesn't care what the mother/rp has they look at what the father/nrp has so it would irreverent whatever she said lies or otherwise, they'd look at his income

I can't believe people are sticking up for someone who used her ex to pay for the kids so she could do all the things she wanted

What exactly does this mean? Are you saying that any demand made on an ex to support their children is unacceptable?

I can pay for my children and the life we lead without too much trouble. The pay off is my children are in permanent childcare and we barely see each other. We do, however, have a new car, holidays and regular haircuts. Are you saying that any request to my ex to make a financial contribution is 'using' him? Should he be allowed to just walk away from our children because I can manage perfectly well without him?

Many, many children and their supporting parent are not so lucky and are living in poverty. Please don't expect us too feel sorry for those who have no day to day care of their children, nor any financial input. You are being very insulting.