In thinking that 4 billion owing in child support is a national disgrace?

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www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/absent-parents-owe-4bn-overdue-7025101

Scandalous....

Make the Petition section on here something you visit regularly.

I can never understand how a parent can not contribute toward the upkeep of their children.

And as for the step-parents who then marry the scumbags and have more children, whilst knowing their partners are not paying towards the original children, words fail me.

I don't think you should be allow to claim child benefit if you have child maintenance arrears, nor should you receive tax credits.

That NZ law seems spot on. People should not use further children as an excuse not to pay for their existing children.

Ultimately someone picks up the financial burden of split families.

1. The parental responsibility parent
2. The government
3. The NRP

2 of those 3 are unfair. Your children shouldn't stop being your children because you're no longer with their mother.

Andrew makes a good point.

How much of this money 'owed' is owed by dads who have children by multiple women? I'd be interested to know that statistic.

Also how many of those who owe money are unemployed?

My own suspicion is that if you are a low earning NRP, it is actually better for you to earn less/give up work and become a SAHP to any subsequent children with a new partner/ go self employed, work a few hours a week and top up your earnings with tax credits thereby minimising any maintenance liability.

I honestly think the more you impose conditions to try and recover monies owed, the more methods of avoidance you'll see. Not to say it won't be successful at least in part, but I think it is unlikely you will effect a complete sea change.

And of course you may also see an increased no of NRP's seeking 50/50 care, when often no maintenance will be payable...

Women need to take a stand on this. I would not date a man screwing his own children in this way but am blown away by how many girls not only stand by but actively encourage it

There is another side to this.

I am going back a good 30 years, but my step father had a real nightmare.

His ex wife left him for another man. Got the house (which she promptly sold). Said man was earning a fortune, moved them into a fantastic thatched cottage, paid for fantastic holidays and if anything was needed bought it.

And they hounded him for every penny, to the point he was living out of the back of a van.

I am not saying that he shouldn't have paid upkeep for his children but when you get an ex partner that seems like she wants to financially destroy her ex partner it's wrong.

That's where the balance is wrong. They hound the easy touch ones even if they can't afford it and the ones that could afford more get away with it.

Sorry but I don't agree a man who will support his children money wise is usually Defishant in other ways as a dad

To think anyone can actually say some who can afford to pay for there child's needs but refuses to is a good father with a straight face is beyond me

It's all well and good people say oh my child has a wonderful relationship with there not paying
Father of course. They do YOUR financing it

My child has never done with out because of his non paying father but if his father paid he could enhanced his life

But I have to say I have done with out things so example my son attends tutoring he has special needs and it's helped him a lot espically as he's doing is finals it's 200 a month

My ex paying half of that would of helped a lot

The appersehip my son is doing he will be expected to be driving with in a year of turning 17 the driving lessons will cripple us the ex won't help but will continue to pay for private school for his other daughter what a funs King awesome guy

It doesn't matter if the ex wife moved into Buckingham palace after the divorce .... They are still his kids.

Women need to take a stand on this. I would not date a man screwing his own children in this way but am blown away by how many girls not only stand by but actively encourage

this exactly this even for women who have dead beat exs they moan about there babys fathers but will date men who don't see or pay for there children , and

It doesn't matter if the ex wife moved into Buckingham palace after the divorce .... They are still his kids.

my ex uses the fact my husband is not a bum as a reason not to pay

It's pathetic ..... You should have read the email I got when I asked him to buy a pair of shoes ... I should a) not go on holiday b) give up smoking c) get a fucking job .... I've printed that one out so that every time I nearly do something for him I don't ☺️

Also the other thing that happens is those who do pay often use it as a form of control when my friend met someone her ex stopped paying for her daughters after school lessons she now works part time evenings as well as full time during the day to pay for it

What about less entitlement to benefits and lower tax codes? Would that work?

This isn't gender specific though. We have residency of DSC.

Never have and never likely to see a penny from their mother.

No prison , refused of a marriages liance , amd mortgage and drivers liance would help

If you can't afford £200 a month for a child you can not afford to drive, start a new family of buy a new fucking house

poster OrangesandLemonsNow Fri 08-Apr-16 21:05:15

Usually it is men though

best one I ever herd was my sister ex after 11 years of not giving her a penny finally agreed to have my nephew for the summer holidays afater two weeks promptly rang my sister explains how expensive activities are and could she send some funds to cover it all and he was actually serious

My ex wanted the children to be sent with a packed lunch on the one day per week he "babysat" for me 😂

Pisssssssssdoffffff

It doesn't matter if the ex wife moved into Buckingham palace after the divorce .... They are still his kids

So it's ok for a woman to cheat on her husband, then take him for every penny and leave him pretty much sleeping rough.

He was quite happy to pay for them but why should he have been reduced to living like that when she needed nothing!

I've never cheated on anyone but I've been cheated on and was I 50% responsible yeah looking back. These things are never black and white. It's all about the children whether she wanted for anything is not relevant.

OrangesandLemonsNow Snap!

Refusing a marriage licence (besides being illegal under the ECHR) would not make much difference.

Refusing a driving licence will probably prevent him from earning.

Refusing a mortgage? Now you are talking. The lenders should of course investigate a borrower's finances better than they do.

When I was alot younger my sperm donor (well let's face it after marrying my mum not wanting to know me, then to try and talk to me one I was 18 ) was told to pay me 50p (!) A week as he said he had no job, so then he claimed he was disabled, funny that as he drove the bus I got into work. But anyway he got away.

Sorry but I don't agree with this the money is not for her

Even if I win the lotto the other person who created the child should still pay there share that's it

The fact she cheated is a mote point just as if I wanted to stop my ex seeing his son because he cheated

On paper me and oh are very well off but we are cash poor and asset ritch unless your the wow mens bank manger you have no idea what her finances are like

Also should sleep soundly in the van knowing he had contributed to his child up brining

But Pisssssssssedoffffffffff

To take him to the point of suicide. To the point he couldn't afford to eat properly. She didn't need to take him for nearly everything. But she did.

He paid as much as he could and more.

How can you justify taking so much of someone's money - yes a father needs to support his children but both parents need to take responsibility. And in this case she wanted him to take far more than his fair share

He paid what the law said he had to pay .... I'm sorry but not eating etc is the usual bollocks trotted out by the hard done by other party

Catvworld. But the problem was he went without but she didn't at all. I can't believe people are sticking up for someone who used her ex to pay for the kids so she could do all the things she wanted.

Like I said, he wasn't afraid to pay his fair share, but to pay nearly all his income head not right.