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AIBU?

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Aibu to think this is cruel?

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summerdreams · 14/03/2016 17:58

Was at a hospital appointment today with my 19 month old there was a mum and dad with a pram, 4 month old and a 2.5 year old it was a small playroom/waiting room the ages are guesses by the way.
They walked in 2.5 year old on reins and put the reins under the wheel of the pram so the little boy could only sit on the floor next to the pram no toys near enough to play with and the couple sat there dad reading a magazine and mum breastfeeding the 4 month old. I found this really odd and I could see other parents looking also. Its been annoying me since coming home the little boy was very quiet and never said much I keep tryna think of reasons for doing this and cannot really. We was at main childrens hospital and I understand people come from all over the country and are tired and stressed but cannot think why you'd tie your child up and ignore them ? Aibu Hmm

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Gileswithachainsaw · 14/03/2016 19:23

do people really think.a two yr old would not pull at the reins or scream his head off if he was really unhappy?

I used to tie mine to lamp.posts. better that than they fall over into the road while I was getting my bus ticket out amd needed both hands

scarred for life they are not. unlike if they had run out in front of the bus. then I'd imagine scarred fir life would be the preferable potential outcome.

he was fine. of he wasn't happy you'd have known about it.

summerdreams · 14/03/2016 19:23

I have nothing against reins I have recently bought some for my own son so this is definately not about that. I just found it odd! Im glad im not the only one ive spent the last 19 months in hospital waiting rooms and this is one of the only things that has ever made feel slightly uncomfortable.
gooseberryroolz thankyou we have bm biopsy booked for 3 weeks time there allways cancelled because of illness.

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RedOnHerHedd · 14/03/2016 19:24

I've tied my child to a pram once with reigns, while having a picnic at a boating lake. There's no safety barrier around the lake and whilst we were all sat down eating a picnic, I tied his reigns to the pram. My reasoning was, he was far quicker at getting up and running off than I was, and as a safety precaution I took away the risk of him running into the lake.

I never let my children play with doctor surgery or hospital toys either and in fact, our GP surgery has no toys any more because they are supposed to clean them every day. And there's just no time in a busy GP surgery to do this. So we always took our own books or toys to play with.

There may have been a reason why they didn't want their child to play with the toys, may have forgotten to bring their own. I hate it when parents barely interact with children though. And fwiw, I wouldn't have wanted my child to sit on the floor either in a place like that.

AnyFucker · 14/03/2016 19:25

Abused children do not make a fuss when restrained. They learn not to. That would be my concern (all else being equal).

GooseberryRoolz · 14/03/2016 19:26

Fuck off Gooseberry

My child was neutropenic for two years and she didn't once sit around in an open waiting room.

She's already posted the clinic precautions. Don't use 'my child was ill' as a cover to make another parent of an ill child feel like shit.

You suggested that she is compromising her child's health. Wrongly, because you handn't RTFT. Not nice.

WhiteBlueDaisies · 14/03/2016 19:26

For goodness sake it's not judging, it's being in a small room and making an observation.

You'd have to be dead to see a toddler tied to a pram for an hour, with neither of their parents interacting with them or giving them means to intertain themselves and have some kind of internal thoughts about it.

YANBU OP.

Muskateersmummy · 14/03/2016 19:28

I'm usually on the side of none of your business, there could be hundreds of reasons for this, it's just a snapshot. But op was there for an hour and there was no interaction with the child? That is a bit odd.

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Gileswithachainsaw · 14/03/2016 19:29

So when kids are running about, talking, playing etc people start threads thinking they should be sat down quietly.

Kids sits down quietly and they are abused as they aren't making a noise/fuss/playing

can't really win here can they Grin

she's probably a MN and was to tired and worried about whatever brought then to the hospital to either face tutting amd judging looks for loud disruptive child or a child on a seat for a nano second as an adult appeared.

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summerdreams · 14/03/2016 19:29

mrsdevere we see the top heamatology consultants in the country you do not to be isolated unless there are illness parents get letter that say you cannot attend the apps if your child has any sign of illness as most of the children who attend are immuno compromised. This is a condition ive been dealing with for the last 19 months and we've managed to avoid life threatening infections so thanyou for your advice but I believe my sons 3 teams of consultants know a little more then you.

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summerdreams · 14/03/2016 19:33

My son doesn't attend nursery, playgroups, packed places, no tap water, etc these are our precautions. I make sure he is given a room everytime we are sent to a&e.

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FortifiedWine · 14/03/2016 19:34

I have an autistic child. I go to great lengths to stop him attacking himself/his sibling/random strangers in hospital waiting rooms. Don't use reins, but understand why someone may have to. It might be a SN problem.

NickiFury · 14/03/2016 19:35

I think I missed the point of your post too. Can you explain more clearly? Confused

OP, I would probably judge too, but I try not to as I have a child with ASC and get MUCH judgment. Not sure what to think about this tbh. Odd.

MrsDeVere · 14/03/2016 19:37

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summerdreams · 14/03/2016 19:37

Completely. I was recently in bone marrow transplant clinic (just because ds consultant was there) and these children were also not isolated the ones that need to be are you obviously dont get that some kids need to be isolated and some dont older neutropenic children are in school allthough the thought horrifies me many are!

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ILostItInTheEarlyNineties · 14/03/2016 19:41

I don't know much about your son's condition. It sounds very difficult. I wonder if the boy you saw has the same condition and his parents have shielded him from the world so much that he lacks social skills or is very used to his own company?

Obviously, I am speculating but it's human nature to question things. I don't think that is judgemental.

Owllady · 14/03/2016 19:44

I feel a bit sorry for the op. It sounds like she's going through a really rough time and I feel really uncomfortable with the level of vitriol aimed at her, for which sounds like an observation of a situation that was peculiar.

I have no idea what tryna means

NickiFury · 14/03/2016 19:46

The piss taking of OP's grammar and turn of phrase is really nasty. I do wonder if people are aware of just what utter condescending twats they come across as in their race to appear so very clever.

VelvetCushion · 14/03/2016 19:47

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ILostItInTheEarlyNineties · 14/03/2016 19:47

Tryna = trying to

TheFairyCaravan · 14/03/2016 19:47

Everything turns into a fucking bunfight on here nowadays.

I would have raised an eyebrow too, Summer. I hope your little boy is going well.