To Think the Tories Are Actually At War With Disabled People?

[JoffreyBaratheon]

I've been mired in the grim process of my son's DLA being changed to the new benefit, PIP. During this time, I have heard the stories of other disabled people and their loved ones. This may make me biased. Or human.

On every forum I have been on for help, can see that thousand of other disabled people, their carers, appointees and loved ones are being pretty well tortured by the vicious cuts and the new, brutal system being forced into place.

Benefits advisers and people at charities in the front line trying to support people like us also seem to report they feel like the disabled are under attack.

Now I will never understand why the most disadvantaged people in society are being forced to pay for the mistakes of bankers and rich people. Losing DLA will be a blow to our family - most of all my son but all of us - we won't recover from. To multi millionaires like Campbell, no doubt it's back pocket change so they are incapable of understanding what they are doing to ordinary people.

The past few months going through this hell, I've often felt like we might as well cut to the chase, sew the lack triangle on our clothes, and wait for the work camp to open. And I don't say that lightly, as someone whose grandad was present during the liberation of Belsen. (Wasn't it another tory - Gove - who said historians got it wrong and the British were donkeys led by lions, or words to that effect - so we know the contempt in which we are held by these chinless wonders already).

AIBU to think that people like Cameron and IDS are targeting disabled people and their carers, specifically?

There could be a domino effect

I am just enjoying the moment. one of those vile people has gone....

David Cameron's response is like a lovers tiff. I

I guess he feels like he was dumped by text.

www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2016/mar/18/iain-duncan-smith-resigns-from-cabinet-over-disability-cuts-live?page=with:block-56ec9298e4b0d5bc16af5784#block-56ec9298e4b0d5bc16af5784

What is he on about, making disabled people more independent? My son had - like many people - the highest rate on DLA and we had a Motability car we are probably about to lose (it's with the decision maker at the moment - still). We have gone from him being supported to be independent to probably losing his independence.

Due to their "reforms".

And hundreds of thousands of people are in the same position.

That was before these new cuts were announced.

Evil, lying fools.

I read that around 60% plus of Mandatory reconsiderations/appeals are won which also gives the clue that the PIP system is failing if it is making so many poor decisions first time round.

Apparently the Government have set aside a large sum of money specifically to fight appeals, the nasty bastards.

Apparently the Government have set aside a large sum of money specifically to fight appeals, the nasty bastards

These cuts are ideological. Like the bedroom tax. They're not - and never were - about saving money.

IDS replacement is Stephen Crabb. He's the first bearded conservative cabinet member since 1905 apparently.
H s a Christian, he plays rugby and he's 43. No idea about his voting record.
Cameron will be gathering his allies around him I would imagine.

Crabb is also pro-EU. I wonder how many more Brexit supporting cabinet ministers will feel the need to resign and are quickly replaced by pro-EU ones.

How long will the minions allow his Wikipedia entry to stay unedited though:

Stephen Crabb (born 20 January 1973) is a British Conservative Party politician. He has been the Member of Parliament for Preseli Pembrokeshire since 2005 and The Grim Reaper for the Sick & Disabled since March 2016

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Crabb

It does not say that now

Pro EU is probably best for disability issues though. If we be exit, there's no oversight to what the govt does.

Stephen Crabb
Mr Crabb claimed more than £8,000 to refurbish a flat in London and sold it for a large profit. He then “flipped” his second home expenses from the flat to a house he was buying for his family in Wales.
The MP then designated a room in another flat, rented by Daniel Kawczynski, a fellow Tory backbencher, as his main home. When approached by The Telegraph, Mr Crabb said he made the flip after being encouraged by an official in the Commons fees office.
Mr Crabb bought the orginal flat in Southwark for £68,000 in 1997. Over seven months, from July 2006, he took advantage of the small mortgage interest charges on the flat to claim £8,049 for refurbishment.
This included £1,451 on repainting, £549 for a sofa and £435 for bedroom furniture at John Lewis, where he also claimed £500 for a goose down duvet and corner TV unit.
Mr Crabb claimed a further £662 for a leather chair, £535 on three rugs and £350 on a coffee table from Laura Ashley. Having claimed for refurbishing it, Mr Crabb sold the flat for £240,000 in September, 2007.He then switched his allowances from the flat to the new £310,000 family house in his constituency of Preseli Pembrokeshire, Wales, where he lives with his wife, Beatrice, and two children.
This allowed him to claim £9,300 in stamp duty and £1,325 per month in interest on its mortgage. Mr Crabb said “an official in the fees office” told him, “Steve, I’m looking at your allowances and you’ve spent hardly anything”.
“He said, 'you’d get more for your allowances if you switched’,” Mr Crabb said.
He made the switch and claimed the stamp duty on his new house. He assigned a room in the flat rented by Mr Kawczynski, the MP for Shrewsbury and Atcham, as his main home and began to pay half the rent. Commons officials were informed. He continued claiming mortgage interest for the Pembrokeshire house until August last year. In all he has claimed £67,633 in second home expenses since 2005.

I've posted and commented re crabb on another thread but for info voting record

www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/11768/stephen_crabb/preseli_pembrokeshire/votes

I think it's possible he'll be worse than IDS!

He's NEVER rebelled on a vote and was a whip at one point.

I've r ad, no idea if it's true, that's he's been involved with a gay conversion organisation. That may be hokum or misleading but whichever, it will out.
Poor speculation on my part but I think we may see others leaving and a rise of a new leader. Probably Boris.

Yes - looks like prime toady material.

Last night I listened to my husband while he told me again that he feels like a complete failure. A failure for finding every day life hard, a failure for not being able to work, a failure because I work and he doesn't. A failure to society.

He is not a failure but he feels that way. He would give anything to be able to work. He used to feel worried about going in the garden incase the neighbours were judging him for being work shy. He dreads meeting new people because they always ask him what he does for a living.

People might think he is capable of working, in fact people have told me they can't understand why he can't. Ignorant people, but those people and those views have a massive effect and now he has got to be assessed by people who aren't even medically trained and possibly have it cut.

We are really scared. When that assessment happens I can guarantee dh will end up in a crisis. Sadly enough, he can't see his psych for checkups and monitoring because he isn't under one because they cut the services- he has to see a GP for a referral in an emergency or call the crisis team... all when it's a bit too late and instead of reverting the crisis, we have to get him over it instead. But hey, what's a few months of hell?

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/stephen-crabb-disability-benefits_uk_56ed9025e4b0cc1ede8c261b?

Apparently they won't be going ahead with the disability cuts now.

It's so grim that we have a government that has had to be censored by the public more than once on this issue. Thank god people are willing to speak up. They'd be erecting workhouses by now otherwise.

Its very carefully worded that statement, "we won't be making 'those' cuts"

Remember DC "I don't want to cut tax credits"?

Oh I know. I don't trust a Tory as far as I can throw one...

Apparently consulting in advance of bringing in a massive change that affects hordes of people is out of the question. You bring in the change first, in a "let's enjoy the shock on their faces look at how powerful I am" kind of way. Then if there is massive outrage that might damage your political career you consult afterwards. I'm guessing that you then claim that the consultation supports your original view with some minor tweaks needed (you have of course made sure only to consult with those who will agree with you).

Does this article help anyone?

kittysjones.wordpress.com/2013/04/18/what-you-need-to-know-about-atos-assessments/

This would make so much sense. Lifetime DLA goes to degenerative conditions that aren't going to improve but only get worse. If there are any changes, recipients are obliged to declare them.
At present, lifetime DLA awards are terminated, recipients have to go through a very stressful application procedure for PIP, an assessment by someone not medically trained (DLA was GP assessed) and due to the idiosyncratic system are not qualifying for support. Then having this overturned at appeal.
If you have a degenerative disability, you really don't need this stress and worry.
Please sign.

you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/move-dla-lifetime-awards-recipients-straight-over-to-pip?source=facebook-share-button&time=1458430795

It now turns out that the Tories consulted on the change to such an extent that even Duncan Smith didn't know about it in advance!!!

I have started a thread and people have responded!

Need a reviving brew myself now :)