To Think the Tories Are Actually At War With Disabled People?

[JoffreyBaratheon]

I've been mired in the grim process of my son's DLA being changed to the new benefit, PIP. During this time, I have heard the stories of other disabled people and their loved ones. This may make me biased. Or human.

On every forum I have been on for help, can see that thousand of other disabled people, their carers, appointees and loved ones are being pretty well tortured by the vicious cuts and the new, brutal system being forced into place.

Benefits advisers and people at charities in the front line trying to support people like us also seem to report they feel like the disabled are under attack.

Now I will never understand why the most disadvantaged people in society are being forced to pay for the mistakes of bankers and rich people. Losing DLA will be a blow to our family - most of all my son but all of us - we won't recover from. To multi millionaires like Campbell, no doubt it's back pocket change so they are incapable of understanding what they are doing to ordinary people.

The past few months going through this hell, I've often felt like we might as well cut to the chase, sew the lack triangle on our clothes, and wait for the work camp to open. And I don't say that lightly, as someone whose grandad was present during the liberation of Belsen. (Wasn't it another tory - Gove - who said historians got it wrong and the British were donkeys led by lions, or words to that effect - so we know the contempt in which we are held by these chinless wonders already).

AIBU to think that people like Cameron and IDS are targeting disabled people and their carers, specifically?

This government just ignores petitions

I think we need the wording to reflect what we're talking about here - dramatic, drastic, brutal cuts for benefits for the disabled because we all need to tighten out belts, whilst MPs take expenses that are more than many people get in benefits...

I don't care whether they ignore it or not. The press are what we need to mobilise - shame the tory politicians, and keep it up so that they know when the next elections are looming, every action they have done against disabled people will be exposed.

Where can we find out our own MPs' expense claims? I'd be very interested to see what my MP spends on what, and whether that comes to more per year than a person on DLA/PIP would receive... His wages are already so far above the new 'living' wage, without expense, that I think we could put up a good argument and humiliate them into the bargain.

Most of us in real life have no expense accounts. I actually can't understand why politicians should have a PENNY in expenses, so long as we are all still having to pay for the mistakes of bankers and their golf club mates. And they are already earning well above the living wage.

It's the press that prop these bastards up!

It's social media and the newer kinds of media that will be the death of them, though.

Humiliation is the way to go. Anyone know where I can find out about MPs' expenses? Mine looks the sort for free meals, booze and junkets. (Bloated).

The only way to stop this is to vote these bastards out. Unfortunately, it's not going to happen with the current Labour leadership.
A lot of people are ultimately selfish and poorly informed; the Tories spin them a line, tell them they're middle class, and they swallow it. They don't wise up until the bastards come for them next. What people need to do as well is vote. The Tories don't go for pensioners; because they vote, and they vote Tory in large numbers.
Petitions are useless; it's been shown that this government just ignores them, and it just defuses people's anger. People sign them and think 'I've done my bit'.
Hassle your friends to email their MPs; as no Tory MPs voted against these proposals, it's a long shot but bombarding them with messages might help.

TheSinking, I think pensioners are next on the hit list:

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/top-torys-heartless-plan-put-7551536

Put them to work in the fields! They're too slow at pea picking, though, so allow employers to pay pensioners under minimum wage!

Shamed, yet, tory voters? This is what you voted for.

I saw that article. Part of the reason that it was laughed out is that the Tories *won't' go after pensioners.

Tory voters don't feel shame.

They'd probably get bonus points for trashing a disabled pensioner, admittedly.

oh yes and how will public liability insurance and employers liability insurance cover that. Thick as well as callous.

I saw that article. Part of the reason that it was laughed out is that the Tories *won't' go after pensioners.

Oh yes they will - there's a demographic shift making it's way through society. Sadly the Tories spotted this before anyone else, and have been able to press it to their advantage. Bear in mind, anyone under 40 is probably never going to live to draw a pension anyway.

The bottom line is the Tories get their morality from the 18th Century. Poor people are poor because of a moral deficiency, and therefore deserving of contempt and scorn. Why ? Because they wouldn't be poor otherwise.

Remember the outcry when Glen Hoddle suggested disabled people were being punished by God ? That's what the Tories believe.

YY LH If you take a look at Joe Halewoods housing blog the cuts in housing allowance will be affecting pensioners in supported housing.

So what's the answer ?? get everyone to email their mp /news outlet/ local paper/Fb page or Twitter feed.?
Get the word out to all those people who don't care ?? Keep bombarding the public with what's actually going on
There's a fb page called atos miracles who have a full list of all the MPs who voted for a recent cut to the Esa
Any Thoughts/ ideas??

People see another headline about "the disabled"!and they don't relate. It's not them. How do we get people to relate and make it relevant to them?

Reverse the cuts to Disability Benefits Petition

Cheers, Dawn. Signed. They're now at over 92,000 and if they get over 100,000 is possible it might get discussed in Parliament - so fingers crossed the petition gets another 8000 plus, ASAP.

They are doing the outrageous stuff at the start of their term of office because they think we're thick and by the tie the next election comes, we'll forget it. What's the betting they start back-pedalling or stop doing the really vicious stuff, when they're a year from the next election?

This time, members of the public have to keep this alive, and raw, and constantly in their faces.

Given that somewhere in the region of 25 per dent of public spending is on welfare payments of some sort then this a key to managing the budget.
You are completeley right Pontidy-except 53% of that Welfare Spending goes to pensioners. Maybe we should kill the off and cut the budget

Thanks Dawn just signed, it's over 100,000 now.

www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/we-want-their-parking-spaces-too-say-middle-classes-20160317107241

BRITAIN’S middle classes have said that getting disabled people’s money is nice but they would also like their parking spaces if possible.

The £1.2 billion cut in disability benefits, spent on a tax cut for middle-class households, has the better-off hoping it is just the start.

Helen Archer of Reading said: “You should see how far I’m parked from Waitrose some days while their spaces are all empty.

“And now they’ve got even less money — thank you for that by the way, we’re thinking a summerhouse — there’s even less point in them having pride of place.

“They could paint a symbol of perhaps a woman with a purse and money on it, to show those spots are reserved for people of means.”

She added: “Also my son Seth would like to play wheelchair basketball but he hasn’t got a wheelchair. And a lot of them don’t really need them.”

Sometimes you can barely tell the difference between satire and actuality...

That does kind of sum up what's happening.

Link to find your MPs email address if you want to ask them about their views regarding the support given to people with a disability

www.parliament.uk/mps-lords-and-offices/mps/

Would be interesting to find out how many people have a friend or family member who requires state support for disability and is having a hard time getting any disability benefits thanks to this Government. I really think it would be as high as 1 in 3 or even 1 in 2.
Feel as if we're now back in 1996.

Link to find your MPs email address if you want to ask them about their views regarding the support given to people with a disability

My MP sent me a 5 page letter (in the post, 100gsm paper) explaining she couldn't give a shit what people who didn't agree with her thought.

Feel as if we're now back in 1996

Somewhere, Tory high command have just read that (what, you thought all that internet surveillance was for terrorists ?) and are rubbing their hands together ...

"1996 - just another 50 years further back to go"

Terminal illness is not enough to claim benefits