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To think Madonna is being slightly out of order?

163 replies

MadSprocker · 03/03/2016 08:23

Probably going to get a flaming, but reading a news report this morning about the custody battle about Rocco, she doesn't seem to take her son's feelings into account at all. He is happy in school with his father, whereas she is on tour in various places around the world. The judge also condemned both Guy and Madonna for playing this out in public, when it could be resolved in private.

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VagueIdeas · 03/03/2016 10:06

Of course she's heartbroken. But I also suspect she just isn't used to anyone saying "no" to her, which is why she's behaving so appallingly in such a public manner.

spanky2 · 03/03/2016 10:07

I think posting #nosausage next to his photo was unforgivable . I can see why he wanted to leave and live with his dad. Such a shame to have your mum make a personal joke like that to the whole world.

nowyoucmo · 03/03/2016 10:08

Feel v sorry for Rocco. Must have taken a lot of courage for him to say he wanted to stay with Dad, worried about upsetting Mum, etc.
For her to react this way is really selfish and just humiliates everyone involved.

Catphrase · 03/03/2016 10:09

I remember watching a lawyer discussing this case a few months back. She was right.
Trying to drag a 15 year old back will not do your relationship any good.
Assuming there's nothing bad about being with his dad, leave him be. There's a good chance he will come home.
It must be bloody heartbreaking as a mum, but I think he is old enough to make a choice, dragging it to court to force him will not help the relationship or the already clear problems in that.

She needs to work on the relationship not force him home - that won't work

whattodowiththepoo · 03/03/2016 10:16

Desperate to know if soup has ten sons or teen sons or ten teen sons.

CrazyDuchess · 03/03/2016 10:17

I must admit i don't really care for Madge and GR.

i'm just place marking to read about soup.....

lljkk · 03/03/2016 10:22

I dunno anything about Madge or Rocco... but if my bolshy 15yo firmly wanted to live with his dad I'd probably be relieved to have that burden taken off me!!

Oh well, I'm obviously not going to win mother of the yr award either.

ppeatfruit · 03/03/2016 10:25

Vertigo Yes me too! If you drag your kids to school thay often just go out the back way ! It can have consequences that don't bear thinking about to force children into school.

EponasWildDaughter · 03/03/2016 10:27

I was going to say 10 teens would be impossible biologically, but no! 2 sets of triplets and a couple of sets of twins within 10 years and bobs your uncle Grin

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diddl · 03/03/2016 10:38

Is it right that he has been there since December?

What has Madonna been doing in this time?

Wouldn't the first thing be to go overthere & talk to him?

PaulAnkaTheDog · 03/03/2016 10:39

I think she's still on tour?

Fontella · 03/03/2016 10:39

None of us know what is really going on. All this anti-Madonna stuff is just a leetle bit sexist in my opinion. I'm sure she's a loving mother and I'm sure Guy Richie's ego is every bit as developed as hers.

Yeah, and her 15 year old son has made it categorically clear he doesn't want to live in the US with her, he wants to live in the UK with his dad. What does she think dragging it through the courts and forcing him back to live where he doesn't want to live will achieve?

The criticism she is getting has got bugger all to do with being 'sexist'.

PeggyBlomquist · 03/03/2016 10:41

I also need to know about the 10 sons! I'm half remembering a fairy tale with lots of sons and swans and castles.. Soup must have an exciting life!

GooseberryRoolz · 03/03/2016 10:45

I'm half remembering a fairy tale with lots of sons and swans and castles.. Soup must have an exciting life!

I've moved on to calculating how many cubic feet of fridge capacity you'd need for ten teen sons. I'm so boringly practical.

iPost · 03/03/2016 10:45

Yes me too! If you drag your kids to school thay often just go out the back way ! It can have consequences that don't bear thinking about to force children into school.

I think it depends. Specifically, on the finer details of the child/parent combo in question.

My younger sister was a school refuser. An Ed.psych would come everyday and there was no dragging involved, just a steely will to get her out of the door, into the unit, and a year later back at school.

She went on to get a degree, a masters and a PHD in a hard science. She is now an extremely resilient and effective top manager in a male dominated field. None of which your average person (including us) would have predicted based on the teenager she was back then.

Left to my mother's devices, she would be lucky if she had ended up with a half arsed, unaccredited qualification in dried flower arranging and a part time "work from my mother's home" job that barely kept her head above water.

I HE. But the thought of my mother having been left to HE my then school refusing teenage sister as an alternative to getting her back into mainstream ed, makes my blood run cold. Not so much at the lost sparkling qualifications and glittering career. There's more than one way to skin the cat called life. But at the limitations that solution would have placed on her emotionally, mentally and opportunity-wise.

If I could track down that ed.psyche (who I thought was so cruel at the time), I'd plant (potentially unappreciated) kisses all over her face.

I don't know what the solution is for Rocco's alleged school refusing, I don't know him, I don't know his parents and even if I did... I still might not know what was best for that specific kid, cos at the time I thought the ed psych was going about everything entirely the wrong way with my littler sister.

But I was wrong.

I think what will work and what will work out best, really will depend on the unique nature of the specific people-equation in hand.

PeggyBlomquist · 03/03/2016 10:47

'cubic feet of fridge capacity'

I think my entire tiny flat just shuddered Grin

x0x0x · 03/03/2016 10:52

Isn't the likelihood of having ten sons the same as the likelihood of having 10 daughters and of having 5 of each?!

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Yohoodlum · 03/03/2016 10:54

I think this is one of those situations where it's impossible to know what the actual situation is.

kali110 · 03/03/2016 10:55

soup please come back!!!

squoosh · 03/03/2016 10:55

People like Madonna tend to be so successful because they're perfectionists and control freaks. I think she needs to realises that her usual techniques won't help her when it comes to this situation with her son.

VertigoNun · 03/03/2016 10:56

Ah I employed a private ed psych and HE for a while too. I now suspect dd has pathological demand avoidance as being on the autistic spectrum is linked to her other dx. She eventually demanded to go back to school. Grin Though due to a chronic health condition she has dreadful attendance levels.

What's to say Madonna and Rocco don't have the same stuff going on.

My advice would be to leave Rocco with a more relaxed parent, as DD and her control freak Dad didn't do well together.

Sandbrook · 03/03/2016 11:01

I haven't been following Madonnas private life so not qualified to comment.
I do however want to hear from Soupdragon about her 10 sons.

She will come back won't she?

GooseberryRoolz · 03/03/2016 11:01

Isn't the likelihood of having ten sons the same as the likelihood of having 10 daughters and of having 5 of each?!

Erm. Yes (10 DDs) and no (5 of each) Or not??