Can't believe what Sky News reporter just said re child sex abuse victim of Adam Johnson

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Did anybody else see this? I'm horrified and a bit disturbed tbh.

The reporter was talking to an ex footballer about the case and said 'Do you think it's hard for people to understand how hard it is to deal with the temptations put in the way of footballers'.... 😟
The ex footballer responded in agreement with the reporter, saying how oh yes it's very hard for them, etc....

So we can assume from this that these men see children as 'temptations put in their way'?

i feel sick 😞

Yes good point Myred the texts are stomach churning and agree with you.

Stealth there have been some outrageous comments on this thread but just for the most ridiculous one.....

Ok can you explain the difference?

'I actually think that even if she had just turned 16, rather than just turned 15, the she's still be a victim of hideous grooming here'

Absolutely. A 28 year old man has absolutely no business whatsoever getting involved with a 16 year old girl. Or an 18 year old girl for that matter, in my opinion

There was a great article on The Pool website recently about the attraction of schoolgirls for some men, and about how its not just about physical attraction, but also the appeal of being with someone who will always be the 'smaller' person, less mature, less experienced, less knowledgeable, less confident, all of that. Pathetic.

What I find shocking is how the police and CPS can be so efficient in investigating and charging Adam Johnson for grooming one girl but are unable to investigate and charge GANGS of Asian pedophiles grooming and systematically abusing THOUSANDS of girls for a decade or more in numerous regions throughout the country.

They do need educating. Too many teen girls especially like to pursue overage men/boys and they should be taught in sex ed or whatever that it is not ok and can land them in dangerous situations and being dragged through court just like this victim.

She didn't pursue him. He pursued her. It's in the texts. None of this is her fault.

I already said in my last post he was in the wrong, but she is a tiny bit responsible too imo at 15.

No, she isn't. Not even the smallest amount. But, because there are people like you around, she is having her picture bandied about on social media and she will NEVER be able to move on from this. Go you!

Yes, DH was saying last night that men can look objectively at a girl that age and see that she will be an attractive woman. But that he (and most men) could never actually see her as attractive or sexy as she isn't actually a woman yet. But he says it would be the same if she was 16 or 17 too. As he said, there's nothing sexually attractive about a child.

They do need educating. Too many teen girls especially like to pursue overage men/boys and they should be taught in sex ed or whatever that it is not ok and can land them in dangerous situations and being dragged through court just like this victim.

Why would this education be aimed solely at teen girls? Should teen boys not be taught don't rape/groom/take sexual advantage of vulnerable people? Saying girls need educating to stop them from landing themselves in dangerous situations reminds me of the time Nadine Dorries said that if little girls were taught to say no then there'd be less child abuse.

It's laying the blame for abuse at the feet of girls/women and perpetuates the idea that females are complicit in any assault against them.

Totally. If a teenage girl/boypursued any adult then the Adult says absolutely no. Never ever.

Teenage girls and boys of course need to learn to stay safe. Learn that grooming and pursuing children for sex is wrong. Etc.

Adults should already know.

No excuse ever.

Stealth she never went anywhere, she just keeps changing her username. Which she's entitled to do of course, but she has such a recognisable style that she's not too hard to spot!

Nceccoli

Hopefully this means lessons have been learned.

Not by some posters on
Mumsnet though.

I am appalled and saddened by some of the victim blaming on this thread. Those posters should feel ashamed of themselves; it's utterly despicable to talk about a child crime victim like that. She was groomed and exploited, this is very clearly not a teenager who pretended to be older or sought out sex. The text messages make that abundantly obvious (which is why he was forced to please guilty).

Hygge's post nailed my feelings on this, well said.

Unfortunately the perceived attractiveness of the perpetrator seems to cloud people's views. It seems easy for people to believe that a Saville or the recently convicted gang would be guilty. However, a man like AJ who no doubt could go into a nightclub and have loads of good looking women after him, why would he groom a young girl. Similar with Ched Evans. They of course confuse the motive of these type of crimes, it is about power not sex.

I remember reading a desperately sad article a few years ago. A woman was recounting her experience as a 15 year old on holiday abroad where she was drugged and raped. No one, including her parents believed her. The perpetrator was good looking and charming to everyone. He had chatted to her parents in the run up to it? Again he could have easily had consensual sex with an attractive woman of his age and so people didn't believe it. Again it was about having power over a vulnerable person rather than just sexual attraction.

Perhaps he will be put with Gary Glitter,Max thingie and Stuart Hall. They are all the same.....wealthy and arrogant. Believing their money and power outbuys the law. Thankfully not.

I really don't get what's wrong with saying 'Sorry, I prefer my sexual partners to be consenting adults. Here is your signed shirt.'

It's this idea once again that once a man is presented with a, often vulnerable, female then he is somehow obliged to undertake sexual activity with her. That there is just no other option in that situation.

He couldn't help himself

She was flirty and looked older

She was wearing a short skirt

So fucking depressing.

'I really don't get what's wrong with saying 'Sorry, I prefer my sexual partners to be consenting adults. Here is your signed shirt.'

Indeed.

And, oh yes - I also have a girlfriend already who is currently pregnant with our baby. So no thanks.

What a complete and utter scumbag. How anyone can possibly be even vaguely on his side is beyond me.

It is arrogance, nothing more. 15yr old girls are not sexy. They're pretty but they're too immature and inexperienced in life to be sexy. He is a good looking, famous esp locally, wealthy young man. If he just wanted casual sex he could have Easily found it in a local bar or club with any number of attractive consenting adult women. Instead he continued to pursue a football mad star struck young girl. He didn't pick her up in a club and assume she was an adult. He groomed her via text over a number of weeks. He's just a vile arrogant tosser.

Good timing - just heard a caller on the radio swearing blind that 90% of 14 year olds are sexually active, and teenage girls know exactly what they are doing, and that he feels terribly sorry for AJ because he's facing possibly 10 years in prison for 'not much more than a peck on the cheek'. In fact, he seemed enormously interested in the proportion of young teenage girls who may or may not be sexually active. Sweet Moses. People who think like this actually walk among us!

I really do despair sometimes. I guess in all the rancid nonsense, its important to remember that AJ has been warned by the judge to expect a custodial sentence, and it may be up to 10 years long, so for once, a sexual crime seems to be being taken seriously by the courts.

Phalenopsisgirl your description of your teenage self is actually really distressing - you sound like you were a deeply damaged and unhappy little girl and it's horrible to think that there were older men only too happy to exploit that.

Well, have just had a reply from OFCOM about my Complaint about the Sky News Reporter referring to the victim as a 'Temptation':

Thank you for contacting Ofcom about a news item published on the Sky News website.
Whilst Ofcom regulates the content of Sky’s television and on-demand services (e.g. Sky1, Sky Atlantic, Sky News, Now TV), it has no jursidction over news articles on Sky’s or indeed any other broadcaster’s website. In this instance, I would suggest you contact Sky directly (news.sky.com/info/contact-us).

It's always someone else's responsibility, isn't it?

90% of 14 year olds? Hardly! In my school (okay not UK, more conservative) most of us hadn't even had our first snog by then!
Where I lived in the UK there were areas where there were issues with very underage children having sex, but these were areas of extreme deprivation and social problems, and are hardly the norm or anything to aspire to.

Just catching up after being out this morning, and Hygge wrote a fantastic post that imo needs repeating:

We do need to educate all teens about sexual abuse, but not in the victim-blaming or slut-shaming way you have suggested.

We need to teach them all, male and female, about enthusiastic consent.

We need to teach them that they can say no.

We need to teach them to accept someone else saying no.

We need to teach them that the absence of a no is not automatically a yes.

We need to teach them that being made to feel as though they owe sex is wrong. Nobody owes sex to anybody else.

We need to teach them that an adult would not expect sex or sexual contact from them.

We need to teach them to respect someone who says they are not sure about sex, or says they are not ready for sex, or says they don't want to have sex.

We do not need to teach them that at fifteen they are practically an adult and so must take a share of the blame if an adult abuses them in some way. Because, and I feel I can't say this often enough, that is bullshit.

I honestly and sincerely hope that the people making these sort of comments about childen dont have children themselves

My daughter is 14, has the figure of a woman and would look a lot older if she wore makeup but she is still just a child