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275 replies

CheeseAndSprinkles · 29/02/2016 14:03

I care for 2 of my children but I'm only able to claim one amount of carers allowance. I save the country a lot of money by caring for my children, I wouldn't have it any other way, but the extra money would be extremely helpful. It's a pittance anyway. So am I BU?

OP posts:
IHaveBrilloHair · 29/02/2016 16:20

Twat arsing twats took my Care DLA away, I am fighting it but they currently owe me around £12,000.
I got it for five years, but now don't need it according to them, yet my condition has worsened.
Carer's allowance is a joke too, they are lucky not to have to pay any for me, as my 14yr yr old is my carer.

x2boys · 29/02/2016 16:21

i,m also a carer for my disabled child its just the way it is so unless the system changes you cant claim two lots of carers allowance unless you have a partner that also claims for one of the children having said that since giving up work and having to claim tax credits ,housing benefit ds,s dla and carers allowance and also moving into a council house so saving over £300/month rent my disposable income is only slightly less than what it was when i worked full time as a staff nurse as i was nt entitled to any benefits before p[ only started claiming dla for my son after i gave up work] dh works but on a low wage.

ElinoristhenewEnid · 29/02/2016 16:22

I get carers allowance for looking after my dh. I work part time but earn under the £110 earnings limit.

Strange quirk of Carers allowance is that although they take earnings and other state benefits into account they disregard any private occupational pensions you may be receiving.

So you could be receiving £1000 a week from a private pension and be eligible for carers allowance but earn £111 a week and not be eligible for the allowance!

Viviennemary · 29/02/2016 16:23

I think a flat rate is the only feasible way. Because one carer might need to do twice as much as another one depending on circumstances. Apart from assessing every single carer and how many hours they put in and paying all at a different rate it just isn't possible.

Sallystyle · 29/02/2016 16:25

It's too compensate you for not being able to be gainfully employed

Yes it is. So think about it, you get more on JSA and those people can work. For the majority of people those on JSA will eventually be employed. Now I know that could take a hell of a long time but the idea of it is to support them short term.

Carers allowance is to support people who can't look for employment due to caring duties. Why should they get less than those on JSA, when for the majority of people they won't be able to work for years, if ever? Being a carer is usually a long term job so it makes sense to pay them more as working is not an option for them.

I recently stopped getting CA myself and I now work part time, but it took bloody years for me to be in the position to be able to do so.

YouAreMyRain · 29/02/2016 16:30

Can someone claim CA if their partner works?
I never thought about getting anyone else to claim the CA for my other child but I could get a family member to maybe.

CA is a pittance and should be increased if you have two DC on DLA.

The fact that it's taken off income support is also a joke.

CheeseAndSprinkles · 29/02/2016 16:31

Grin samcro

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AutumnLeavesArePretty · 29/02/2016 16:32

I thought it was an allowance for the person who was unable to work?

It's not for caring for your child, you do that anyway as a parent. Not many parents don't care for their children as if they don't the authorities step in.

Yes you have two children but that was a choice, everyone can limit their own family.

honkinghaddock · 29/02/2016 16:35

Caring for a disabled child means far more caring than caring for one that isn't disabled.

Millymollymoo8 · 29/02/2016 16:36

Not read entire thread but can't you challenge this under the minimum. Wage legislation?

Start a petition, its appalling.

x2boys · 29/02/2016 16:38

yes YouAreMyRain and it doesnt matter how much your partner earns they could be earning thousands as long as the carer doesnt earn over £110 or what ever it is a month they can claim it.

Voldetort · 29/02/2016 16:39

Yes you have two children but that was a choice, everyone can limit their own family.

WT-actual-F? Presumption much? The OP did not ask for or expect two disabled children, one of them severely so. She also didn't expect to have to give up work to provide care for those children. At what point should she have limited her family...?

It's not for caring for your child, you do that anyway as a parent.

A disabled child very often requires more care than a child who is not disabled. For example, my 6yo takes more looking after than my 4yo and 2yo combined.

ouryve · 29/02/2016 16:40

Yes, YouAreMyRain. DH works FT and I claim CA.

You could, in theory, get, for example, your mum to claim CA, so long as she carries out 35 hours worth of care, every week.

So, if your aunt spends a good chunk of the weekend looking after your child in receipt of DLA, so you can all get some much needed sleep and do something with the rest of your family (eg Friday teatime to Sunday lunchtime) she could probably make a claim.

If your aunt has that child for 2 hours on a Saturday so you can get some shopping in and otherwise pops around for the odd cup of tea, then no, your aunt cannot claim.

shazzarooney99 · 29/02/2016 16:41

To be fair I know what your saying, however you do get dla for both children and carers on top, it is extra money whichever way you look at it, yes it would cost more if the children were in the system, however Dla is enough on its own, I can imagine there are countries all over the world that do not pay for children like ours, that is not being unsympathetic, its true.

NickiFury · 29/02/2016 16:42

DLA is enough on its own.

No it isn't.

Voldetort · 29/02/2016 16:45

Dla is enough on its own

DLA is for the disabled person, in this case a child. It is not for the carer.

it is extra money whichever way you look at it

Not when you've given up a full time wage plus company benefits plus pension it isn't.

ouryve · 29/02/2016 16:47

Yeah, AutumnLeaves, we limited our family at a very sensible and normal 2. Too bad that we were first in line for the pesky broken ones. We tried to get our money back, but it turned out that children don't come with a warranty, like electrical goods. hmm

Have you ever changed a bouncy 9 year old's shitty nappy? Fun it is. Meal planning is a joy, too. Food aversions are all the rage, I hear.

ouryve · 29/02/2016 16:49

Too bloody tired to even carry off a proper Hmm

Branleuse · 29/02/2016 16:50

thats just the way it is. I have two children with disabilities, but you can only claim carers allowance for one of them, but I also get disability rate tax credits, so I actually dont feel hard done by at all.
The carers allowance is per carer, not per child.

NickiFury · 29/02/2016 16:50

It's not caring for your child, you do that anyway as a parent

Only parents who don't have to choose clothes for their thirteen year old because he can't tell what's appropriate, wash and comb his hair and in fact still fully supervise bath time, hold his hand to cross the road, not let him answer the door because he wouldn't know what to say to a person stood there, would say this.

Clueless you are.

Voldetort · 29/02/2016 16:50

Even if you include DLA in the calculations it's a pittance.

£101 a week for higher rate care (lower rate mobility) plus £62 a week carers allowance. That's £163 a week. If you divide that over full time hours, 40hrs a week, it's roughly £4 an hour. And that's not taking into account the broken sleep, the emotional toll of caring (it's no coincidence that a large number of carers suffer from depression), and so on. If you take it over 24/7 it's 97p an hour.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 29/02/2016 16:51

Elinor.they don't. They disregard 50% of contributions you make towards a pension when assessing your income.

Branleuse · 29/02/2016 16:51

Youaremyrain - yes, you can claim CA if your partner works

Stompylongnose · 29/02/2016 16:55

Yanbu.

I assumed 2 children would mean double the carers' allowance too.

The people who offered you a biscuit are muppets. I'm not a carer but I'm a single parent and my child benefit and tax credits for 3 kids are more than for 1kid.

LifeofI · 29/02/2016 16:56

i dont know about careers allowance but im assuming from your reply that your children are disabled, so i do think you should have two lots of benefits and not one, not only one of your children are disabled.
Bit bizarre you are only getting one amount. Is there any chance you can appeal or anything?

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