To ask you all to help calm me down re dd's vaccinations

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Dd is due her 8 week jabs tomorrow. Since she was born I've suffered terribly with ptsd, pnd and extreme anxiety - particularly around dd being ill.

I know she has to have the vaccines but the idea of taking my tiny helpless baby along to be jabbed by something which may make her ill is making me feel incredibly anxious already. I took ds and didn't worry but everything has been different this time round.

Please tell me how she will be ok after the jabs. I know the risk is greater not having them but it just feels awful taking my healthy baby for something which might harm her.

^^ what alasalas wrote.

OP I was in a similar boat to you. I was 100% certain I needed the vaccinations but very anxious. I explained to my GP and she spent 5 mind telling me what to do in case of a reaction so I was totally prepared, and comfortable that I could come back in and be seen immediately if anything made me worry. I've never doubted the science or logic for one second because as a (former) scientist I'd read much published research and it's just non-negotiable as the most basic thing you can do to care for your child.

That 5 minute chat with my GP was really worth doing. Please do the same and be reassured you and your dc will both be fine

My DS is now 24! He has a very traumatic delivery, and fitted, in special care. Scans showed severe brain damage, and he is in fact severely disabled with CP, and also autistic.

I was very anxious about vacs given his history (also MMR stuff kicking off). Was persuaded by his medics/research that safer to do than risk him becoming ill. So glad I did, even though I was so worried.

One, he's not been ill, or caused anyone else's child to be. Two, over the years we have met a number of children brain damaged by illness , not just meningitis, but measles too, that they caught as babies before vacs. And they were the lucky ones. In the Third World mothers queue for hours and hours because they live with the reality of living(and dying) with preventable childhood illness.

It is the right thing to do, will be over so quickly, and will actually increase your peace of mind I hope. Sending Good Wishes.

Alasalas
I just typed a whole long post about this, popped back to check on updates and saw you had put it so much better than I could have.
I totally agree, and will join your little rant.

Interesting comment Dirty. My DP is a microbiologist and says categorically you cannot catch TB from the BCG vaccination. Your DC may have been one of the unfortunate few for whom the vaccine didn't give any protection - but they certainly didn't catch it from the vaccine. They caught it from someone who had TB.

For what it's worth OP, our DCs were all fully vaccinated and our DGCs are all fully vaccinated. The Men B vaccination may make your little one a bit unwell. My DD's DC had his first vaccinations 5 weeks ago and she gave him a dose of calpol an hour beforehand and he was grisly for about a day and half afterwards with a raised temperature which she also gave calpol for. He's also just had his first BCG vaccine - in parts of London they are routinely vaccinating against TB.

Yes, your DC will cry - she won't like it. But think of how many more jabs and invasive procedures she will need if she catches any of the diseases. You've been through it before and will come through it again tomorrow.

Take care of yourself you your DCs.

FFS eczema is not a 'tragedy'. It's uncomfortable and tiresome, but treatable.

And Andrew Wakefield should have been sent to prison for what he did. He caused a major public health risk for money, not just because he was a tinfoil-hat-wearing idiot.

star that picture is utterly pathetic. Comparing vaccines to obesity and gm foods? Suggesting people who vaccinate done feed their children vegetables?

Grow up. Completely purile.

Well all of this is going to help the OP's anxiety, isn't it?

This is one of the reasons when you have PND etc you are advised not to seek reassurance on the internet. It sucks, but it really does make things worse.

Hope things settle for you soon, OP. Been there, worn that t-shirt.

For schlong

Wish I'd seen this post sooner - there is a distraction technique you can use so your baby doesnt notice the vaccine.
Coo at him and tap him on the bridge of the nose. Its annoying and distracting, he'll be focused on that. They can't focus on two things at once.

It workd on kittend and puppies too.

BTW, Schlong et al, my Grandad and his brother were deafened by measles. Go away and stop calling everyone else sheeple while you learn pseudo science from social media.

Good tip, Tit I'll use that next week when dd has her 8 week jabs while simultaneously waving my boob in her face

Please. You should all do your research. It's actually pretty irresponsible for everyone to just be telling OP to get on with it and it will be fine imo. The world' sheep' springs to mind

As I keep telling twats people on here; you CAN'T do any serious research, if you're not a scientist or doctor or have the right eduation. You can neither access nor understand the research and data that is available. All YOU can do is read other peoples opinions, which you mistake for science and spout rubbish on the internet.

This is typical of Mumsnet these days.... OP comes on to ask for advice, perhaps some reassurance, and instead there is squabbling, bitching and general unpleasantness. What a shame.

IME vaccinations are far worse for the parents than for the babies. I did cry a little bit when my DCs had theirs , and I wasn't expecting to at all! But I knew I was doing the right thing for them and for everyone else.

The anti vaccination debate is such a first world problem, how lucky we are that we are even debating it.

OP for you. It will be fine and over very quickly. Your DD will thank you one day

We have a professional body in the UK that weighs up the evidence for and against each vaccination. They end up also having to weigh up the cost...so not all vaccines that are on average beneficial are actually implemented. Certainly no vaccines that are NOT on average beneficial are implemented.

The only way in which the lay public can contribute to this process is by reporting accurately any symptoms which occur after vaccination (which may or may not actually have been caused by the vaccination) and hence accurate data is fed into the decision making process.

Every parent has to make the decision whether or not to vaccinate for themselves (though I personally believe given the above this is a bit of a nonsense) and they should take into account any apparent violent reactions to vaccines immediate family might have had. If there is no history of vaccine response then the decision to vaccinate is fully justified as in the child's best interests.

Solid Andrew Wakefield has been completed exonerated. Just that the press don't share information such as this.

Ziggy You sound charming

Mykingdom I think you need to relax a little. The pictures were not meant in any way to have such a direct connection with each other.

Personally, I'm cautious. But I would never be so rude to call anyone nasty names, whichever route they choose. It's choice. There are dangers to vaccinating and clearly dangers to not vaccinating.

titclash By the way, my brother was on life support as a toddler as a result of the measles vaccine. Left with brain damage. There's always a story for each side.

A doctor friend of mine posted this on FB recently.

Andrew Wakefield has been completed exonerated. Just that the press don't share information such as this. By the WHO or by Jenny MaCarthy?

Andrew Wakefield has been completed exonerated. Just that the press don't share information such as this.

Link please?

star utopia

The only person that has "exonerated" Wakefield is himself

I assume you've read the gmc review commentary versus his original "research" in full detail. If not, you might want to do that.

Here's an informative article:

www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/andrew-wakefield-the-panel-is-satisfied-that-your-conduct-was-irresponsible-and-dishonest/

I know exactly how you feel, my baby had a horrible start, we were told at one point he had no good outcome and now he is a very bright and active 19mo little boy with none of the predicted problems (seizures at five days) but I had horrible post natal anxiety and was terrified of having him vaccinated (even though in my head I knew it was the right thing and much much less scary than not doing it) it's just the anxiety of going back into a medical situation and feeling powerless - but actually it will be nothing like your experience in hospital and your baby will be fine and you will feel much more relaxed after. It's horrible feeling un-rationally anxious but it does get better I promise

YY greenwood - reading lots of pseudoscience articles on t'internet and then thinking you know more than qualified doctors and medical professionals is arrogance...read actual evidence based research and then make an informed opinion. But anti-vaxxers probably don't know the difference between evidence based research by actual scientists and pseudoscience, which can be written by anybody really....

We are so lucky to have vaccines, people in 3rd world countries would love to have access to vaccines like we do. We are so lucky to be alive at a time when we don't have to worry about dying or getting complications from measles, polio etc.

OP- your little one will be fine! The vaccines will be over quickly and then forgotten about just as quickly, and you will wonder what you were ever worried about. Good luck.

OP - I felt exactly the same. In the end I wound myself up so much that ds1 had finished his little cry way before I'd stopped bawling!! It will be fine. We've since had all his jabs up to 18 mths, plus BCG and Men B jabs privately. About to do it all again with DS2. DS1 always had a little wail and that's that. He has never had a single after effect. I have never heard so much drivel and poison from people trying to prevent you protecting your baby. Totally flabbergasted. The fact that shlong has trotted out a load of silly over-rehearsed sound bites should tell you all you need to know. I've never even heard of being pro-vaxx. As far as I'm concerned, there are normal, responsible people and then people like shlong. I wholeheartedly agree that it's those of us doing the responsible thing and protecting our children who allow 'anti-vax' or whatever they're called to have the luxury of choice with a vastly lower risk to their kids than they'd otherwise have. Spend some time in the 3rd world shlong and then come back and talk about this. Or spend some time talking to sugar. to sugar

I was just looking on active convos and saw this thread which had the steam coming out of all orifices last evening
Do hope that you are ok OP and the jabs are done.
Please do not take any notice of others. You are protecting your dd and that is what matters.