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To ask you all to help calm me down re dd's vaccinations

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Givinguph0pe · 24/02/2016 17:09

Dd is due her 8 week jabs tomorrow. Since she was born I've suffered terribly with ptsd, pnd and extreme anxiety - particularly around dd being ill.

I know she has to have the vaccines but the idea of taking my tiny helpless baby along to be jabbed by something which may make her ill is making me feel incredibly anxious already. I took ds and didn't worry but everything has been different this time round.

Please tell me how she will be ok after the jabs. I know the risk is greater not having them but it just feels awful taking my healthy baby for something which might harm her.

OP posts:
StarUtopia · 24/02/2016 21:17

She DOESN'T have to have the vaccines. It's your informed choice. It's not because you're anxious that you're wobbling. It's because you're a sentient human being.

Cue foaming at the mouth militant pro vaccination onslaught. Yawn.

Thank Christ for a voice of reason on this thread.

OP. You don't have to vaccinate at all. You certainly don't have to vaccinate right now just because it's exactly 8 weeks. Hang fire for a few weeks if you're uncertain. The risk isn't actually necessarily greater not having the jabs.

And as for this : If you have watched the video of the baby with whooping cough gasping for air I'm sure you will want these vaccinations. Or the pictures of that poor child covered in a huge rash from meningitis before she died.My dd will have them in two weeks and I can't wait until she is protected from horrible diseases.

Way to scaremonger! Now that is irresponsible. I could post some awful links about children who have been damaged by vaccines, but I'm not that bloody mean to a Mum who is clearly having a tough time at the minute.

FWIW my son had whooping cough at 14 months. He is fully vaccinated.

Vaccinations do not equal immunity. And I wish the militant pro vaxxers would realise this. You can still get the disease even if you vaccinate. Plus, not only do they not give 100% protection, the protection they do give does not last indefinitely.

OP. Take some time. Breathe! And step away from the militants on either side!!!!

SolidGoldBrass · 24/02/2016 21:20

She will be fine and best of luck. DS yelled and I felt mean, but he was over it in a few minutes.

schlong · 24/02/2016 21:21

I got measles from the measles vacc. Great protection then.

It's quite distasteful all this inciting OP to inflict this on her DD when she has well founded misgivings and a choice to decline/delay.

But let's get back to the tetchy touchy groupthink shall we? Silly me.

SolidGoldBrass · 24/02/2016 21:25

Vaccine damage (as opposed to being a bit off colour) is very, very rare. Vaccination is overall far more beneficial to personal and public health than not vaccinating. While all of life contains a degree of risk, anti-vaxxers are absolute fuckwits - who can usually be pushed into revealing their nasty, stupid narrow mindset fairly easily.
The two of you on here, please check whichever of the rest of the stupid you subscribe to:
Homeopathy
Evolutonary psychology
Ghosts
Detoxing
Illuminati
Chemtrails
Morgellons
Zionist world-domination conspiracy
Princess Di was killed when the driver spotted Lord Lucan riding Shergar up a grassy knoll and steered straight off the road in surprise...

schlong · 24/02/2016 21:34

You'll have to do better than that SolidGoldBrassy. Even the vax shills paid to spout pro vax propaganda online rarely resort to depicting antivaxxers as conspiracy theorists any longer. It's old hat.

Night night.

Fuckwits?Wind your neck in? It's pro vaxxers fairmindedness that nails the argument every time.Grin

PushAPushPop · 24/02/2016 21:35

Your baby will be fine. You are doing what I'm sure millions of parents in deprived countries wish to god they could do for their kids.

Cococo1 · 24/02/2016 21:39

If actually get someone else to take your dd. My DH did all vaccinations after the first couple - I just found it too hard. Was always clear I wanted to vaccinate; it was just the idea of the jab I couldn't bear.

ollieplimsoles · 24/02/2016 21:48

Op I was you ten weeks ago! I was up at night crying over the vaccines and no one was more anxious than I was over it.

I was inclined not to have any vaccines for her.

We put them back for four weeks and dd is still four weeks behind schedule. I did this because she was small when she was born at just five pounds, I wanted a bit more weight on her before having them.

I came to the conclusion after an exhausting search that anti vaxxers are bullshit merchants and all their 'sources' are sketchy as hell.

Put them back a bit and talk to your doctor, find out the truth about vaccine damage, look for statistics, don't just listen to anecdotal evidence.

Topsy34 · 24/02/2016 21:50

I agree with schlong, your baby doesnt HAVE to have them. I'm a firm believer in making informed choices and decisions on all things medical and I read all the information I could about the 8 week vaccines and concluded that having them all in one go was not right for us.

After reading everything, I decided to go ahead with the men b one at 9 weeks (couldnt get appt at 8 weeks), then the 5 in 1 and pcv the following week. We declined the rota virus as I didnt feel the benefit outweighed the side effects and effcienty of the vaccine. Ds2 had no ill effects from the men b except a little unsettled for one night, no side effects from the other 2.

Ask questions, say 'I'm not happy, I'm not sure' just because the nhs state something as recommendation, its not the law.

Vaccinations do not equal immunity, vaccinations offer a % of protection, what that percentage is in each person will be different. Pop in to your surgery and ask for the patient information leaflet for each vaccine

take a breath, filter all the shit off this thread and go from there. Having a wobble is completely ok, and saying I'm not sure is ok and asking questions is ok.

ollieplimsoles · 24/02/2016 21:52

And have a look at yourself schlong

' vax shills' 'groupthink' Christ you sound so try-hard.

sugar21 · 24/02/2016 21:54

Well just read my threads

ollieplimsoles · 24/02/2016 21:55

We did more or less the same as Topsy, declined rota virus based on research, pushed all the others back.

People who chose to vaccinate do read inserts as well.

ollieplimsoles · 24/02/2016 21:56

Sugar Flowers

MrsTerryPratchett · 24/02/2016 21:57

I'm quite glad DD won't get smallpox or polio. Thanks vaccines!

To ask you all to help calm me down re dd's vaccinations
KateBeckett · 24/02/2016 22:01

schlong surely the point is that this is not the place for an argument. The op has made her decision, she is looking for support in dealing with her anxiety which she has explained the reasons for. It doesn't matter what your stance on vaccinations are, or anyone else on the thread either. Stop with the attitude and point scoring, you're not coming across well.

OP I'm sure it is a worrying time, I am pregnant with my first and I bet I hate it when I take him for his jabs! No one likes to see their baby in distress, and you have a lot going on which must make this harder. Well done for realising the effect your mental health is having on your thinking. Maybe try some cbt excersise stop help curb your anxiety? And yes to getting someone to go with you and support you through the day. I also think reframing it as 'she has dealt with worse, this will be nothing' type of thing is a good idea as a pp said. Hugs to you. X

VocationalGoat · 24/02/2016 22:01

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maydancer · 24/02/2016 22:03

I can imagine all these vaccinated children growing up and being really pissed off when they find out their parents vaccinated them and put them at risk. I was. My dc won't be.

It is only because most of us vaccinate our children you have the luxury of choice.You would want your DC exposed to diphtheria, whooping cough and polio would you if children all round you were dying?

VoldysGoneMouldy · 24/02/2016 22:09

This is fuck all to do with vaccines, and everything to do with the fact the OP has said already she is struggling with depression, anxiety, PTSD and the start her daughter had to life.

Go start a different thread to discuss and scaremounger if you want, but not on the thread of someone who is having mental health troubles.

ollieplimsoles · 24/02/2016 22:09

Honestly op, it's never as bad as you think its going to be.

KateBeckett I agree, but people like that always like to appear on threads like these to say 'ooh I don't vaccinate look how much cleverer I am than you sheeple'

Its so tiresome. Show me something concrete, actual evidence that vaccines are actually to blame for the shit they say they are, then ill listen.

ZiggyFartdust · 24/02/2016 22:10

Oh fucking christ on a bike. Is there some kind of klaxon in anti-vax HQ? Do you hear the call to come forth with your tinfoil hats and piss poor advice? Does it make you feel all clever to pour your illogical rubbish all over the place?

OP, take your kid to get their vaccinations. You know its the right thing to do. You KNOW that protecting them against Meningitis, for example, is the right thing to do.

There are people on this forum whose children have DIED from the diseases these vaccinations protect your baby from. Don't listen to the fools who are telling you to leave your tiny baby unprotected and at risk.

sugar21 · 24/02/2016 22:11

I am now really upset

Fivegomad · 24/02/2016 22:13

This is not the thread to start arguing over the pros and cons of vaccination.
The OP has made her decision, recognises that her anxiety is causing her problems, and just wants some reassurance that she is making the right choice.
OP, your lovely baby will be fine,ignore the shouters on here who are thinking only of their own agendas and do what you feel is right.

MrsWhirling · 24/02/2016 22:14

Hey, I just wanted to say that I suffered terrible health anxiety with both my babies - I am normally I very laid back parent. I wouldn't even let anyone visit because I had an overriding fear they were carrying something my babies would catch. I was exactly the same as you before their jabs. I didn't realise that it is a form of/part of PND until I spoke to my GP. Baby will be fine, but you must ensure you are fine too xx

Fivegomad · 24/02/2016 22:16

Oh and by the way, a little message to all of you who don't support vaccination........ Your children will probably be fine, thanks to herd immunity. For which you can give all of us evil vaccinators a great big thanks.

UnderTheGreenwoodTree · 24/02/2016 22:18

I really hate the anti-vaxxers on MN who come on and try to cause extra anxiety for people.

OP - the vaccinations are not compulsory (very little is compulsory in healthcare) but please don't worry. Approx 99% of the population have these vaccinations at 8wks, and the worst they will encounter is a slightly grizzly baby. Administer calpol in this event.

It is horrible to watch your baby cry, but it is for a very very short time. And remember, your ds had his vaccinations - you wouldn't now want to leave your tiny dd unprotected. That would be far worse anxiety for me.

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