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to wonder if people would admit to voting "leave" in the EU Referendum?

330 replies

evilcherub · 20/02/2016 15:38

Apparently there is a lot of inconsistency in answers when pollsters phone people and ask for their decision on Brexit compared to answers given online (respondents are more likely to say they will vote to "remain" on the phone but in online polls say they will vote to "leave"). I wonder if people admitting that they are going to vote "leave" is seen as taboo in the same way that nobody apparently voted for the Tories in the GE Grin. If you are intending to vote "leave" would you admit it to friends and family (especially if you think they are more likely to vote "remain") or are you afraid of being called a Little Englander?

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LassWiTheDelicateAir · 22/02/2016 21:48

Weird to cling to the EU for workers rights and not the unions

Not weird at all. I was an employee for many years, am now an employer. The only post where there was a union was when I worked briefly in local government.

The vast majority of private sector jobs do not involve any trade union involvement. What union do you think private sector employees in say law or accountancy firms would go to?

OTheHugeManatee · 22/02/2016 21:49

Sun-reading white van men, eh?

How very Emily Thornberry of you Grin

Chipstick10 · 22/02/2016 22:07

Snobbery of the leftie elite. My favourite people ...not

2rebecca · 22/02/2016 23:06

I'd like a prominent left winger putting forward the liberal case for leaving. Small is beautiful, local democracy, being able to avoid TTIP, being able to pass laws benefiting the environment reducing food miles. That sort of thing so I'm not siding with UKIP and the worse Tories.
I'd like to leave the World Trade organisation as well.
Producing stuff for the sake of producing stuff and trying to get people to buy more stuff is a strategy past its sell by date.

Limer · 22/02/2016 23:10

The leftie elite don't know what to do, do they? They can't just side with the anti-Tory lot because there isn't one. Quite funny to watch really.

I think a true socialist (as opposed to a champagne one) would vote LEAVE, to protect the workers at home. Champagne would of course vote STAY, to embrace their multiculturalism and all-encompassing love of humankind.

VertigoNun · 22/02/2016 23:11

I would love to know if Jeremy is going to vote leave.

Limer · 22/02/2016 23:15

I think Jeremy himself would love to know that too, VertigoNun. He's got one half of his team screaming, "You can't agree with CAMERON!" and the other half screaming, "You can't agree with BORIS!"

VertigoNun · 22/02/2016 23:19

My guess is he wants to leave and will not reveal this until he is out of office. Wink

JessicasElephant · 22/02/2016 23:21

I'm not totally decided on how I'll vote, though at the moment I'm think it'll be leave. I will happily explain my reasoning to anyone who wants to listen.

  1. i don't believe it is remotely possible to predict the future. So I'm not swayed by the pro or con arguments regarding economics.

  2. I don't have a problem with immigration, but I have no desire to work elsewhere in the EU either, so movement of people is also neutral for me.

  3. I love the ECHR, but we get to keep that either way, so again that is neutral.

  4. I think that laws and politics should be about people and societies rather than focused solely on what is best for businesses. The EU was built on the EEC and so will always be primarily about business.

  5. I think that politicians in westminster are more accountable than those in Brussels. I really dislike the Tories, and few people in my region voted for them. But at least I know that people pretty close to me did, and that we have a common history, culture and language. I think that Brussels is too far removed (literally and metaphorically) from most uk citizens' lived experiences and contributes to the disenfranchisement of voters.

I think there's more uncertainty in a 'leave' vote, but I'm not convinced that's a bad thing. And perhaps at least if we leave the uk government can't just keep blaming the eu for everything. Obviously TTIP is an issue, but it will remain one whether we stay or go.

Limer · 22/02/2016 23:22

Ah, you might be right there. He'll tell us in October then? Wink

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 23/02/2016 00:46

Corbyn has come out in favour has he not? Despite what he might think privately.

www.ibtimes.co.uk/eu-summit-jeremy-corbyn-says-labour-will-back-eu-membership-despite-camerons-tinkering-1545034.

It's going to amusing seeing Sturgeon having to be on the same side as Cameron. She may of course secretly be hoping leave wins as she thinks it will give rise to another indy ref.

I think she's wrong in thinking Scotland voting to stay but the rest of the UK voting to leave would result in independence.

Champagne would of course vote STAY, to embrace their multiculturalism and all-encompassing love of humankind

I'm not sure if I'm "a champagne socialist" or a left-wing Conservative (albeit I'm still a member of the Labour Party) but the reason I will vote stay in has nothing to do with your assumptions.

RichPetunia · 23/02/2016 01:11

I'm based in Scotland and I'm voting to leave. I hear the First Minister repeatedly saying Scotland wants to stay in. I'd say she's misinformed as anyone I've spoken to wants out. I really, really hope we leave.

DontCareHowIWantItNow · 23/02/2016 07:13

Corbyn has come out in favour has he not? Despite what he might think privately.

He has been quite clever about it.

If you actually listen to what he has said about it, it is always 'Labour' thinks not I think.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 24/02/2016 14:00

I'd say she's misinformed as anyone I've spoken to wants out. I really, really hope we leave

I think you are right. A poll in today's Guardian suggests voters in Scotland are equally as unenthusiastic about EU. ( apart from me)

stripeypaws · 24/02/2016 19:37

Being unenthusiastic not the same as actually voting to leave. I reckon the never-ending scaremongering stories about jobs, the economy etc over the next 4 months will lead to around a 5-7% victory for the IN vote. Then the EU really will have Britain by the balls...

specialsubject · 24/02/2016 20:18

I don't know how I'm voting yet, lots more reading and listening to do. When I have a decision, I won't be ashamed either way.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 24/02/2016 22:15

Being unenthusiastic not the same as actually voting to leave

The %age of voters in Scotland who wanted reform was the same as in England. The %age in Scotland who definitely wanted to leave was not much lower than in England.

The bookies are confident it will be ""in". They were right about the indy referendum - I hope they are right about this too.

ThisCakeFilledIsle · 24/02/2016 22:23

Bookies are usually right or they'd go out of business.

Iwantmymaidennameback · 24/02/2016 23:26

I'm definitely voting out.
I don't want some plank in brussels telling me I can't buy a straight banana or a wonky cucumber.
Or that my DCs can't compete in school sports days because "everyone has to be a winner".

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ohtheholidays · 24/06/2016 00:37

We've voted out and there was a cheer in this house when Sunderlands vote came in.

We've been in the Leave Vote since the beginning.

TheManaha · 24/06/2016 00:41

Nobody will admit to say leave as they are scared to be called names
All today I say in campaigners that alone would make me vote out I don't like people trying to manipulate me
Couldn't vote anyway I am not registered due to my stupid council

Roonerspism · 24/06/2016 00:42

Whatever the result, I enjoyed Sunderland giving a big eff off to Juncker.

EsmeraldaEllaBella · 24/06/2016 08:37

I'd describe myself as extreme left. I voted leave because the EU's undemocratic. Today I wake up to ALL of my Facebook posting statuses about how they feel sick etc. all my friends are liberal, some of them would hate me if they knew. But if I was asked outright I'd probably be honest. I've made new friends recently who would definitely never speak to me again if they knew though. I feel like everyone who voted leave has been branded a racist. I feel uncomfortable that probably lots of them are Sad I feel very uneasy being lumped in with them and might come to regret my decision

peachpudding · 24/06/2016 08:42

I voted leave but was afraid to say it to remain friends, because they could be very verbally aggressive to anyone doing so. Hopefully we can have a more friendly England now we will be a democracy again.