to wonder if people would admit to voting "leave" in the EU Referendum?

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Apparently there is a lot of inconsistency in answers when pollsters phone people and ask for their decision on Brexit compared to answers given online (respondents are more likely to say they will vote to "remain" on the phone but in online polls say they will vote to "leave"). I wonder if people admitting that they are going to vote "leave" is seen as taboo in the same way that nobody apparently voted for the Tories in the GE . If you are intending to vote "leave" would you admit it to friends and family (especially if you think they are more likely to vote "remain") or are you afraid of being called a Little Englander?

*and if the fast food career didn't pan out or I couldn't stay in the country, that would mean DP leaving his full time job of about ten years, for both of us to move to the UK, unemployed. Just what the UK would want, I'm sure!

why foreign investors and companies could leave

Key word there is 'could' not will.

Not saying you are at all but as usual people read things and adjust to suit their arguement.

I agree with Ramesh Ranganathan said on BBCQT the other week.

The scaremongering and twisting of facts on both sides is quite frankly ridiculous.

Nobody I know is talking about it yet Statiscallychallanged, I don't know if they will or if the independence referendum has made us all keep quiet about our politics. I knew next to no YESs which obviously wasn't representative of the actual vote so no point in trying to predict an outcome from chatting to my circle.

I think many in the SNP if they were being truthful are breathing a sigh of relief that independence isn't happening in May. Exports from whisky to Sammon are all falling let alone oil. I'd be amazed if Sturgeon wanted to call a referendum despite the rhetoric: she's a very accomplished politician who can evade a straight answer and spin with the best of Westminster, her supporters just don't see it.

Smilla you've always been able to vote in UK elections as an overseas resident: you just need to be on the electoral register and ask either for a proxy vote or a postal vote - nothing to do with the last elections

Why don't you try actually looking up the problems many, many people living abroad had with it last election, hefzi, and maybe reread what I actually said before ing me.

I'm a 'leave' voter with a Masters degree. I don't perceive a leave voter as ill-educated .

One huge issue which tends to be overlooked is TTIP. The. (very secretive) negotiations between the EU and US spell the end of democracy. I hope everyone on these threads educates themselves about TTIP because the ramifications are enormous. By allowing businesses to sue governments, TTIP will enshrine the rights of big corporations over the rights of people and everything from food safety to the NHS will be compromised. TTIP is toxic and very scary but it's what the EU wants.

I'll be voting out, and it really irritates me that leave voters are characterised (particularly by some media, like the Guardian) as ill-educated, small minded, xenophobic bigots. I have three degrees, and I'm married to an immigrant. My politics are generally liberal. I'll be voting to leave because I think the EU is opaque, bureaucratic and profoundly undemocratic. It feels like we have less and less influence over the way the country is run. And regarding immigration - I'm not against it at all, but the numbers are unsustainable and really starting to strain our public services. Whilst we're in the EU we have virtually no control over that, and I don't see it slowing down.

One of my friends said she'll be voting in "because the EU is better than the Tories". To my mind that's a rather ridiculous reason: we can kick the Tories out (if the voting public so decides), and at some point we will, but we can't kick out the EU bureaucrats, and we didn't even vote them in.

Trying to get the agreement of 28 countries on anything is virtually impossible (as the pitiful handling of the migrant crisis proves), many of the EU countries have severe economic problems, and I can't believe they're even considering allowing Turkey to join. Another reason for me to vote leave is that I think the whole thing may very well implode in the next few years, and we'd be better off watching from the sidelines should that happen.

However, in answer to the OP, whilst I would share my views with family and close friends, I won't be shouting them from the rooftops on social media, as lots of my friends are very 'politically correct' (I live in London and work in the non-profit sector) and I would probably get vilified!

stripeypaws "I have three degrees"

you'll make a fortune out of representing them

all jokes aside, I agree it's going to implode; I'm actually surprised it hasn't happened already.

I must get better informed on TTIP. I know a lot of people who harp on about staying in the EU but are anti TTIP....

for me it has to be stay. Most if not all of our working directives have come from the EU

Yes. Very true.

Lorelei, please do. I would be interested to hear your views.

I think you have a propagandaist agenda Op.

I will be voting to leave. I feel sad about that because I did believe in the European dream, but it's all turned to shit now.
Call me racist if you like, I couldn't care less.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12167643/Boris-Johnson-there-is-only-one-way-to-get-the-change-we-want-vote-to-leave-the-EU.html

Boris johnsons statement.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12166318/EU-referendum-Just-how-stupid-does-David-Cameron-think-we-are.html

Also from above link.

Cameron makes out that there's lots of room for negotiation, and that he has already achieved ALOT.
But I just don't see this.
I think this big 'thing' has run away with itself, and become something that we didn't sign up to. And don't want.

I don't want to be do controlled by the EU. I want to be part of it, but I want some say in what we do and how we run things.

I don't really want to leave. Although I'm not that scared if it. I don't think we'll collapse and people will stop trading with us. I think that's ott and scaremongering.

And I don't want to appear like a petulant child, having a tantrum going " I'll leave, I will leave"
but I seriously think we really do need to threaten to leave, and maybe they'll eventually come around to being a bit more compromising in wanting us to come back.

but I honestly do believe we can't stay. because all our power is being undermined and I think this is really really bad for us and I don't understand how the UK population can't see this.

Met a few friends over the weekend and they're all proud Leavers. All pretty well-educated too.

Boils down to immigration - yes, the UK needs some, but we need to cherry-pick the best from the world to fit our needs, not just allow everyone in from a small corner of the world. That isn't racist. And the UK doesn't need unskilled labour. We already have a couple of million unemployed.

Chronic over-supply of cheap labour has led to a chronic under-supply of public services.

And being 1 in a group of 28 (soon to be more, although I expect if the UK does leave, others will also leave), isn't a particularly powerful position to hold.

Cologne is terrifying - millions of non-EU citizens soon becoming EU citizens, and as a result being allowed to move here.

The war on want website has some accessible info on TTIP. waronwant.org/ttip

Anna Ford my problem is that if you think TTIP is bad, and TISA and all the rest of them, can you imagine what sorts of trade deal the next conservative government will negotiate, without, at least, the (pretty inadequate) fetters of working time, holidays, EU prohibitions on trade union discrimination, and so on? The EU provides very little protection to workers - and instead has engineered a virtual collapse of collective bargaining across Europe, and if we had a viable opposition party I might possibly feel more comfortable about a future out of Europe. However we don't and instead, we have eg a government that intends to legislate to 'give' the European court of human rights 'advisory' status, and if they reject this, we will have 'no alternative but to withdraw from the European convention on human rights'. What is this? Russia??

The Tories are about to publish a British Bill of Rights and they've also announced that they regard the International Labour Organisation as an 'advisory body' only, that can safely be ignored.... The direction of travel under a conservative government is so frankly unpromising (to anyone but the very wealthy) and so backward looking that the EU frankly looks like 'any port in a storm'.

The recession will at least bring house prices down in the south of the country! Markets hate uncertainty, and given that under the terms of the treaty leaving will take a minimum of two years - longer, probably, given the complexity - whatever else a brexit means, there would be a long and rocky road of uncertainty ahead of us.

Unless Camerson sorts out some proper deals with the EU, I will vote to leave. To me this includes far less control from Brussels and a points system for immigration. Also no automatic amnesty for those that are already here although I can't see that happening.

Figment, house prices down?

Don't think so

We are about to enter an era if negative interest rate (ie you pay the bank for keeping your money, so you gradually have less and less money in your savings account)

For me, this means investing in property is a saver bet than seeing my savings dwindle

Negative interest rates means loans will be dven cheaper, and house prices won't come down.

Obv am not an econimist so may be wrong

Just wondering.

I think those clinging to the EU to protect their worker rights are simply reinforcing the argument for the anti-democratic nature of the EU.

I didn't vote Tory (never have) but what they seem to be saying is "the legitimately elected government isn't giving me the rights I want, so I will cling to the hope they will be imposed by the EU" . It seems a very odd (and shaky) reason to support the EU. It's fine whilst things are going your way - but when the EU does things you don't like (TTIP), you can't vote against any more.....

Totally agree with Limer above

TTIP is toxic and very scary but it's what the EU wants

I am afraid this ^ is falling very^ much on deaf ears.

People I have read on here voting in keep saying there are "no good reasons for voting out".

They don't want to educate themselves, to make an informed decision either way. Hopefully those in the middle will look up TTIP.

"the legitimately elected government isn't giving me the rights I want, so I will cling to the hope they will be imposed by the EU" . It seems a very odd (and shaky) reason to support the EU. It's fine whilst things are going your way - but when the EU does things you don't like (TTIP), you can't vote against any more.....

I agree ^ and its madness as if you feel powerless in the face of one layer of government how on earth is adding more^ layers going to help?

I am surprised that Cameron didn't even get small compromises that he asked for. Surely the EU is better off with the UK in it than not? They should be bending over backwards to accommodate our requests. I would've thought they'd be bricking it at the thought of us leaving?