To be pissed off with my tenants changing plugs on my appliances

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They aren't electricians. Am I legally responsible for their stupidity if they electrocute themselves? (Gawd forbid!) They did not contact me about any maintained problem.

If there is a problem with an electrical appliance I would rather they told me so I can get someone with half a brain to fix. I have a condensing tumble dryer in the flat. They moved out the dryer and complained it has water in it. Duh! It's a condensing tumble dryer and you are expected to empty the bottle. There are instructions about all appliances. For some stupid reason they decided to change to plug and now they have tripped the electrics.

Why is that nasty? To confirm that you are right to do what you already decided to do? you say yourself you made mistakes, not completing a check before returning deposit, treating them like friends. Why is not ok to say its good you arent gojng to continue doing that?

I'd be reeling at a £7k paint job. I'd want my house gold plating for that

I was toying with the idea of asking my LL to go halves on a new bathroom if I get any extra cash. His is working perfectly fine but dated and old. It would be £1400 for the whole lot, tiling, flooring, bathroom suite, shower and heated towel rail.

Fingers crossed for you that it sells quickly and you're not left too out of pocket overall.

so you are doing it out of concern for me?

No, not at all. Out of frustration at the dire state of the rental market with so many "accidental" LLs who dont know what theyre at.

More like who

People who dont know what theyre doing.

And it is not nasty to wish that people who dont know how to do a thing, dont do it.

I dont care that you think that

Not read the entire thread, but I just wonder where you would find an electrician to come out to change a plug?

I know how to change a plug, but do not know how to change a washer. All the plumbers I asked to come and change the washer agreed that they would and then never turned up, meaning days staying in waiting for them and no result.

I think most landlords would complain if their tenants were to ask them to send someone around to change a plug.

You're seriously putting their rent up by £600 a year to replace a clapped out appliance? Bloody hell. Out of interest, what %age increase is that? When we've rented before I think there was some clause about is doing routine maintenance (which this would fall into).

Atenco, the plug probably did not need to be changed. And it is still something the LL needs to know about, it is their property and legal responsibility.

More... oh, never mind. But the OP has already explained all of that.

OUrBlanche, the plug probably did not need changing, or changing it would have fixed the issue, but I do think the dryer was already broken and that's why they tried changing the plug, so the tenants have not actually caused any damage and OP is having a tantrum for the sake of having one.

1. changing a plug even badly would not break a dryer. It may blow the fuse in the plug, it wouldn't break the dryer, it would just need replacing properly.
2. "It's full of water" could mean anything, I doubt that they meant they had not emptied the condenser, they probably just meant that it wasn't drying anything and their clothes were full of water.

The tenants should not change a plug on MY appliance without permission. end of.

The tumble dryer has a sealed plug and it possible to change the fuse without taking the plug off. There was no need to cut the plug off in order to change the fuse.

Why am I annoyed. Well I paid to have the entire electrics checked in 2015. The simplest and safest solution is a new dryer even if the dryer is easily fixable. Electrical appliances supplied by a landlord in a rental property have to be a higher standard than ones you buy for yourself.

They have to be a 'higher standard'?

What do you mean by this op?

So do you get appliances PAT tested every year?

"So do you get appliances PAT tested every year?"

No. There is no legal requirement to do PAT testing unless it's a multiple household occupancy property.

Getting the property checked in 2015 is enough. It is an unfurnished let with white goods. I will get rid of the white goods when the present set of tenants eventually leave.

There is little point in arguing with people who think that tenants should be allowed to do whatever they like without informing anyone.

It is sad that you are having to repeat yourself Really. The PAT testing thing was covered a couple of pages back, as was the 'higher standard' and you have already explained what you thought they meant by full of water, which was the reason behind your OP, which you already said was a tad intemperate!

Then again, as a foul, spawn of satan, shitehawk private landlord, maybe you deserve it

Oh dear. A LL thread in AIBU. Recipe for a bun fight.,

Cant see anywhere where upthread where OP explains what the following means.

Electrical appliances supplied by a landlord in a rental property have to be a higher standard than ones you buy for yourself.

The appliances dont have to be a higher standard.

Oh please. In her view, she has a greater duty of care to her tenants than any risks she may be willing to take on her own behalf.

It's a positive that she doesn't think her tenants should have less than 100% safe stuff.