to be shocked about university students on sugar daddy type websites

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In the recent news reports - and amount of students doing it. It seems from the numbers they're talking about that this sort of thing has been normalised. I'd be horrified if dd did it at university tbh. But nobody seems especially upset does that mean this sort of thing will continue or get worse?

Probably been mentioned already but it always strikes me as odd that people are concerned and shocked about the students on sites like these instead of being shocked about the sugar Daddies.

I'm thinking how desperate these men have to be. What about their own families? Are they so lonely? Or that ugly?

I'm shocked that we live in a society where huge swathes of 'normal' men think it is normal to buy women as commodities.
I'm not shocked that young women feel they are commodities for men and that this is where their value lies.

But until every media article or report on this phenomenon has the angle of "MEN - stop buying women, you sickos, they are humans like you" then I think this phenomenon will continue.

However, I think every discussion will have the angle of "Dear me, why do these silly girls with no self respect allow such a thing?", thus perpetuating the idea that the solution to the problem lies anywhere apart from where it truly belongs. With Men. Men get to stop this, or perpetuate it.

Agree completely with hairy

Absolutely, Hairy.

On the jeremy Vine programme it was all about 'what are these women thinking'
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I blame the men. I would love to name and shame and ask them how dare they exploit young women like this?
I bet they wouldn't want their DDs to do and yet they are happy to do it to someone else's child. If it isn't good enough for their child it certainly isn't good enough for anyone elses.
It is grim.

But the mysoginy argument falls down when you apply the same question to men who buy sex from men. I have no evidence to support it (it would be impossible anyway), but I just think the majority of men instinctively think and feel instinctively differently about sex than most women do.

A man using a male escort can't sensibly be accused of misandry. It's obviously not a hatred of men in that sense, so why would straight punter be a hater of women?

CruCru - many people think university is about getting ahead. Any way you can.

If you listen to the More or Less podcast on radio 4, you will see that the press release which ignited these stories was put out by one of these websites and is a significant over-estimate of the number of students involved.

Bibbity I lived in Newcastle. I had a bar job for one month, the. They sacked me for asking if I could rearrange my shifts (already agreed with a colleague) so I could have my 21st birthday off.

I never found another one. They were generally pretty upfront about not wanting someone with only 6m left in the city, who'd be doing finals partway through that.

Carol I am also very sceptical about how common this is. I suspect the students and punters both have an interest in trying to normalise it by bigging up the numbers involved.