to be shocked about university students on sugar daddy type websites

[wintersocks]

In the recent news reports - and amount of students doing it. It seems from the numbers they're talking about that this sort of thing has been normalised. I'd be horrified if dd did it at university tbh. But nobody seems especially upset does that mean this sort of thing will continue or get worse?

It's not exactly the point, but apart from anything else how do they tax it?

by the inch?

Yes it is shocking, I would not like to do it myself, but the students are adults who can make their own choices. Apparently there is no sex involved. I would be weary about doing this as the men paying all that money, could come to expect sex and coukd get nasty if refused.

Why aren't we shocked that students are becoming prostitutes in their hundreds of thousands and no-ones batting an eyelid.

Hundreds of thousands? I doubt it.

But why should we be more shocked because it's students?

Why do so few of you believe them when they say there is no sex?

why are these students different to other woman who go out with rich older men?

what about Flavio Briatore and his young wife or Bernie Ecclestone or Michael Douglas or Rupert Murdoch or Paul McCartney or... they all have younger wives... I guess their wives picked them for their looks over money?

I think it's linked to a more materialistic society. Gone are the days when students lived in divey house-share and wore their dad's old jumpers, a dress from a charity shop and a pair of DMs.

Now it's all apartments with an en-suite per student, Mulberry handbags, and shopping delivered by Ocado. Expectations of lifestyle are so much higher.

Despite the fact that huge numbers of them are doing questionable degrees at not-so-great universities and will likely struggle to maintain that standard of living once they graduate.

Shop at Camden market ? When was the last time you went there? It's so expensive now.
I understand why they do it. I'm a student and My loan doesn't even cover my rent.

Why do so few of you believe them when they say there is no sex?

Because that is the usual quid pro quo, and people are likely to lie if they use sex as part of a transaction.

Haha, there definitely IS sex involved in this! I've had quite a few friends who've done this and similar at uni and beyond.

Of course it's prostitution, but it's not a case of vulnerable young women being exploited; they've all been highly intelligent and often professional young women who want what they see as easy money. Often they've enjoyed the sex and the company too.

Frankly, if there's any exploitation involved, it's mutual.

Why is it shocking? It's a business arrangement like any other.

Why is it shocking? It's a business arrangement like any other.

Because it's seedy.

why is it shocking

because it sets equality back a few decades at least
because these are meant to be intelligent women who are furthering their education and surely surely ought to think of the bigger picture, for themselves as well as society/women in general
because its so exploitative and mysogynistic
because since when was prostitution an ok thing to do if you're a bit broke
I feel like I'm living in a parallel universe at times. And a shallow and superficial one at that

YY to Wintersocks.

I think the one most galling to me is the fact that supposedly intelligent women see their bodies as the best way to earn easy cash, as opposed to their intellect.

Thoroughly depressing.

I have no issue with this.

My university loan didn't even cover my rent. My parents couldn't afford to give new money. I took a gap year and worked 60 hour weeks to afford to go to uni, worked part time during term and went back to 60 hour weeks in the summer. A lot of my cohort struggled

Posted too soon... rather than slogging my guts out, I'd have loved to be taken out and treated nicely and had more time to study / sleep / be a student.

It's not all waitrose and ponies. If they sorted out the loans so you could borrow what you NEED or even made it so you could "earn" your loan by attendance and grade monitoring, people wouldn't do this half as much

But if they're funding their way through, say, university, why's it any different to selling their labour (bodies) any other way? Cleaner? Masseuse?

To say otherwise and call it 'seedy' (whatever that actually means) is just imposing your own morality and prudishness on others. I'd say it's more moral than being a City trader/estate agent/advertising exec (delete as appropriate)

Well babycham I think there are fundamental differences between prostitution and other labour / money transactions. For a start, there are various health, physical and emotional risks in prostitution that don't exist in more legitimate types of work.

And FYI, I am of a rather liberal persuasion and certainly no prude!

Further, it is disingenuous to drag "soundbites" such as banker, estate agent, lawyer etc into the discussion just because they have unfavourable stereotypes.

Plenty of jobs are dangerous and have other potential implications. As long as the employee enters into them voluntarily and with their eyes open, why is it anyone else's business?

I'd rather not work in a slaughterhouse, or as a sewerage worker, but other people might find that a perfectly satisfactory trade for the remuneration they get.

Well, I'd have to disagree. Perhaps some jobs carry dangers, not many, but those that do have them managed or mitigated.

Prostitution does not.

I agree WhirlyTwos - thoroughly depressing.
I certainly wouldn't let another human buy me as a commodity.

Is there something available for male students? Just thinking about son starting uni in the autumn

Dress it up however you like, but they are prostitutes.

Umm yes male students can be prostitutes too

Oh come off it. Of course having sex with someone for material gain is different to doing the jobs mentioned.

And if health and safety law was applied to prostitution, it would not exist.