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Teacher quit and walked out

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Moonlitarsehole · 03/02/2016 16:23

Nc'd to not out myself.

Ds informs me on the way home that his teacher walked out on his last class this afternoon.

Apparently she'd asked on numerous occasions for quiet, and threatened to not help with their coursework. Then said "fuck you lot, I quit", collected her bag and walked out.

I was like Shock ds was vague and said he didn't want me to call the school, as they'd all had to make witness statements.

Anyway, dh is home today and asked ds if he'd been talking too (after I tell him what had happened) and really told ds off for being so disrespectful.

Ds is upstairs writing a letter of apology, not sure what the school's take is on it. Not even sure if she'll get it.

So aibu to think the teacher just lost their shit, which happens to us all?

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MrsDeVere · 03/02/2016 20:31

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fruityb · 03/02/2016 20:38

Haven't read the whole thread but just wanted to thank you for supporting the teacher here!! There are so many times I've nearly lost my rag, one time I did leave a lesson and stand outside in tears for five minutes as they were being utterly vile.

I've had walls punched next to me, had year 11 boys square up to me, been mouthed off at, called a bitch and goodness knows what else. It's a nightmare sometimes.

So good on you for making your son apologise. I can assure you that teacher will appreciate that above anything else.

cressetmama · 03/02/2016 20:41

Happy to make it very, very, exceptionally clear that I don't believe people who live in social housing are automatically over-indulged little anythings. Most are likely to survive to adulthood and turn into pleasant valuable humans. But also to make it clear that most of the students who put no value on education and whose parents think education an unnecessary intrusion seem to congregate in such areas.

AdriftOnMemoryBliss · 03/02/2016 20:44

i remember my year group being dragged into the school hall and given an absolute bollocking after we were accused of being responsible for 2 separate Home Economics teachers being signed off sick with stress when we were in yr10

Apparently we were the worst behaved the school had ever experienced and if our behaviour didn't improve then the 'ringleaders' would be singled out and expelled.

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Want2bSupermum · 03/02/2016 20:50

Boffin I totally hear you. I am shocked at how awful some of the 4 and 5 year olds are in DD's class and that includes DD. I am just appalled by DD's behaviour and we are setting the tone now for all three of our children in the future.

My issue though is with DH who is the soft touch. He is too lazy to teach the kids how to self discipline. It is very hard to sit still and it is a skill that needs to be learned. If you can't sit still it is harder to listen or focus on other activities such as eating. Overall though I am fed up of telling DH 'She is 4. Who is in charge of whom?'

Oh and I am in the US. If over 12 and assault, drugs etc are found on a pupil it is a police matter. They parents freak out most of the time because our PD, via Dyfs, will push for a child to be removed from the family home if they think the parents condone this sort of behaviour. There is a zero tolerance towards unacceptable behaviour and its why the high school is turning a huge corner now.

cressetmama · 03/02/2016 20:50

FastDayTears income has nothing, repeat, NOTHING, to do with it.

Manners and respect, everything! Shall I underline it for this thread? MONEY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MANNERS, RESPECT OR BEHAVIOUR.

Manners, respect and behaviour are modelled and taught in the home, not at school. If children are not respectful of discipline it is either because they have never had any or they are wilful little scr*tes, and yes, you get them all through every level of society. It is because people do not enforce the NO word.

nattyknitter · 03/02/2016 20:50

This act is probably the single best thing that teacher will ever do in her life. I hope she has the guts to stick with the decision and walk away entirely.

I did a PGCE, but didn't go on to do NQT as I decided teaching was a complete and utter waste of my time.

Bless the saints who stick with it.

CountryLovingGirl · 03/02/2016 20:50

Poor teacher. I feel so sorry for her. What a dreadful state she must be in to do that. I think it is terrible what teachers have to put up with from some kids.

Well done to DH who gave your boy a telling off.

Her career will, almost certainly, be over now. I really hope the boys in that class are proud of themselves! I hope someone does the same to them one day.

Audreyhelp · 03/02/2016 20:52

I am surprised any children get any exams as they are so unteachable.
Well done op for making your child apologise.
However maybe the teacher is in the wrong job. You can't just swear and walk off,.

MazzleDazzle · 03/02/2016 20:53

What bollocks! I've taught kids from the worst backgrounds imaginable and some of them were a delight. Likewise, I've taught kids who have had every advantage and some of them were shites!

admission · 03/02/2016 20:54

The teacher obviously needs help now but my concern would also be, as a school governor, what had been done previously by the school to help this poor woman. Did the school actually have any idea how close to the edge she was. Normally these things are an accumulation of issues so were they school related or things in her personal life.
Either way the school (given they have been taking statements) looks as though they are planning to take some kind of disciplinary action against her. That to me on gut instinct seems the wrong thing to be doing but we do not know what else has happened.

FourEyesGood · 03/02/2016 20:57

Manners and respect, everything! Shall I underline it for this thread? MONEY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MANNERS, RESPECT OR BEHAVIOUR.

Manners, respect and behaviour are modelled and taught in the home, not at school. If children are not respectful of discipline it is either because they have never had any or they are wilful little scrtes, and yes, you get them all through every level of society. It is because people do not enforce the NO word.*

cressetmama If money has nothing to do with behaviour, why did you even mention that you think the rude "scrotes" (lovely way to talk about children) usually come from areas of economic deprivation? You're being offensive and ignorant.

MrsGuyOfGisbo · 03/02/2016 20:58

I did a PGCE, but didn't go on to do NQT
Same here. I do supply as I have the fun of the classroom but go home at 3 to my own DC and a whole other life.

timelytess · 03/02/2016 21:03

As a senior leader once said to me as an NQT - " It's not you, it's them!"

Hulababy · 03/02/2016 21:15

Boffin - I did work in a prison rather than a secondary school. Cat a prison to. It was an utter relief, I tell you. You got so much more respect for what you were there to do. And if any of them did step out of line, even a bit, they were hauled up and it was dealt with quickly.

The back up from management, both the education management and the prison management, was immense - coming from a school where the SMT were useless it was a real eye opener.

MrsDeVere · 03/02/2016 21:17

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MrsGuyOfGisbo · 03/02/2016 21:21

SMT were useless
This is the key point.
If staff are supported and sanctions followed though, parents contacted, Saturday detentions, much more productive working environment for the decent majority.
If SMT are useless, run for the hills.

Pretendingtobe31 · 03/02/2016 21:28

This may out me, but one of my teachers hit a boy who continually wore him down. Very sadly, that night the teacher took his own life. Completely changed our attitudes and a lot of young people really struggled with the guilt.

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BoneyBackJefferson · 03/02/2016 21:40

cresset

Like many types of undesirable people there is no type, no single class, no area of social upbringing, no gender that makes them "scrotes".

I have taught children that are given the shoes that they wear at school at the start of the day and they have been an absolute pleasure to teach.

I have taught children that have been kicked out of private schools because they are (to use your term) "scrotes".

The "truly awful" children are a rarity, and even then this shouldn't stop a teacher from trying to build a working relationship with them.

Grilledaubergines · 03/02/2016 21:42

Poor teacher. Clearly at the end of her rope. Surprised more don't do it.

NewLife4Me · 03/02/2016 21:43

So sorry for her and the main reason I left teaching.
You think GCSE or A level in my case are past this but they're not.

I hope she doesn't lose her job through this.

cressetmama · 03/02/2016 21:43

I was the NQT reduced to tears, just not the poor teacher today. It's like dog owners; it's not (normally) MC dog owners who have large aggressive dogs they don't bother to control allow to terrorise everyone else.

As a very upset member of SMT explained that day, "twenty years ago you got five difficult students (who had no idea what was acceptable behaviour) in a school; ten years ago, you had five per year group; now you have at least five per class." It makes educating students impossible.

Making excuses, pleading poverty... it doesn't make a difference.

Audreyhelp · 03/02/2016 21:57

Hesterton you sound lovely if there were only a few more teachers like you.