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To be sick of people slating Faith schools

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Jenga123 · 30/01/2016 15:09

Don't get me wrong I understand why some people may be against them but the negativity I've come across recently is, quite frankly ridiculous. I've been told by friends of friends, family etc that they pay for my dd's to attend their catholic primary and secondary schools and that tax payers that are paying towards these schools should not have to do so if their children can't attend these schools. Well let me just say the average amount of income tax each individual pays, that actually goes towards the upkeep of schools is minuscule, so they aren't in fact paying for them. Myself and the other parents of my dd's schools pay a considerable sum each year to the upkeep of the school and the school contributes 10% towards the costs of running their school and repairs etc.

I also come across animosity at the fact my children are getting a good education and people putting that down to them simply being baptised. But my point is if they feel that their own children are missing out by going to a less desirable school then I'm sure they could have them baptised therefor giving them a higher chance of securing a place at a faith school, and whilst I'm not advocating people pretending to be of the faith, I'm simply saying there are options.

As for my dd's schools like I said they are Catholic and are obviously places were parents of the same faith opt to send their children as they want them to be educated within that faith, and I can't see any problem with this to be honest so why am I hearing nothing but negativity from people?

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AlanPacino · 08/02/2016 13:51

taking the piss

It would be better to explain why it's an unfair criticism. To show how God isn't an invisible friend. Getting offended shuts down the debate when you could use that oft used phrase to show people who use it that it's in error and unreasonable. Just getting upset only shows that you're upset that people don't view your God as you do, tell them why it's not true that God is just an invisible friend.

Itsmine · 08/02/2016 13:55

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BertrandRussell · 08/02/2016 13:55

Yeah, well, sometimes a constant diet of "you're just jealous""suck it up""you're just not prepared to make an effort for your kids""Christians are so much more moral than anyone else""if you want to go to faith school all you have to do is go to church" "it's just the way it is- deal with it" and so on and so on can make some people feel a little disobliging"

AlanPacino · 08/02/2016 13:56

And fwiw I feel that my faith, when I had one, was very much an invisible friend. No one could see him but we were friends and talked to each other. I think what most Christians mean when they say they're offended by invisible friend is that they're embarrassed that it's actually an accurate description of faith in a personal God.

Itsmine · 08/02/2016 13:58

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Scaredycat3000 · 08/02/2016 13:59

I was repeating what the HT told me what my 6 yr old said, they were the one that said out of the mouths of babes, so yes a child said invisible friend, and you're getting upset at a childs description of how he sees your god, and you think that shows how silly and unpleasant who are exactly? So why don't you just explain why invisible friend upsets you, rather than name calling?

AlanPacino · 08/02/2016 14:00

Offensive or just painfully accurate? In RL I'd never use it, don't think I'd use it in a debate but I still stand by the statement that it's actually quite an accurate description.

Scaredycat3000 · 08/02/2016 14:02

Any chance of an answer Its befor this thread runs out or are you just going to get more aggressive and insulting? A six yr old has offended you!

Itsmine · 08/02/2016 14:03

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BertrandRussell · 08/02/2016 14:04

itsmine- did you notice the selection of comments that regularly come the other way I posted? Or are you just ignoring them because they don't fit your narrative?

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Scaredycat3000 · 08/02/2016 14:08

It was an innocent phase, he's 6, what part of that are you not understanding?

BertrandRussell · 08/02/2016 14:09

So you are ignoring. Thought so.

Itsmine · 08/02/2016 14:11

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Scaredycat3000 · 08/02/2016 14:13

Obviously, just like Nicky Morgan is to what we want from faith schools. The British Humanist Association fund raise to try and keep our school systems fair and our teaching fact based. Might be worth a look?

Itsmine · 08/02/2016 14:14

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Scaredycat3000 · 08/02/2016 14:26

Nicky Morgan took over from Micheal Gove for schools, she's pushing for more religious privilege in schools, more religious schools, ignoring court orders on the including of Humanism as a world view in GCSE and A levels R.E. She is ignoring what's infront of her, if only 1.4% of England attend church on a Sunday why would we need more faith schools?
And if anybody is interested the British Humanist Association campaigns against religious privilege in our daily lives, one of those areas is education, they are a charity who needs to raise funds, if anyone has money to give.

redstrawberry10 · 08/02/2016 14:27

I think "invisible friend" is rude and insulting probably because it's hard to argue your way out of it. It's impossible to distinguish invisible friend from god.

Scaredycat3000 · 08/02/2016 14:37

Yes and if these days anybody told you they had a friend that nobody else could see but was telling you to do things and you were, what might happen to you.......... You wouldn't give them loads of money and a place in the House of Lords.

Scaredycat3000 · 08/02/2016 14:37

Sorry happen to them, not you.

Itsmine · 08/02/2016 14:38

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Scaredycat3000 · 08/02/2016 14:40

Again Its my six, 6 yr old said it. You are reading intent into it that simply wasn't there. Are you going to answer the question or continue to ignore?

Itsmine · 08/02/2016 14:42

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